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The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Thu May 11, 2017 10:06 pm

This is the place to discuss everything related to the 5th round of the 2017 season taking place in Barcelona between the 12th and 14th of May.

To submit your 10 'n' Pole Picks for Spain click here, to register in the competition click here

Picks for Spain close at the start of Saturday practice

The event timetable for the Spanish Grand Prix.
Friday
1st Practice 10:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
2nd Practice 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Saturday
Practice 11:00 local time - 09:00 GMT
Qualifying 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Sunday
Race 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT


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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Thu May 11, 2017 10:40 pm

This track where the teams have conducted 8 days of testing prior to the start of the 2017 season.

From these tests, we deduced that Ferrari have finally built a decent chassis with a decent power unit.
Mercedes were also near the top of the tree with their 2017 spec machine.

Red Bull still seem to have some unreliability problems and are also down on top end power. This also applied to Renault and Toro Rosso.

Force India seem to be back near where they should be.

Williams need to start scoring points with young Lance Stroll. The last outing showed that when Filipe is off, the team doesn't stand a chance of points.

Haas. What can I say. They need to sort out their braking issues so the drivers can concentrate on getting the cars home.

Sauber. I can see that running the 2016 spec Ferrari engine should get them home but last season's Ferrari was a dog. I know that the chassis didn't to justice to the talents of Kimi and Sebastian but the car, other than the first race, never looked a winner.

McLaren. What is there to say. Alonso screws every last ounce of performance out of his beast but it isn't enough in the race with engine performance turned down to try and get the car home.

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Sat May 13, 2017 10:36 am

FP1 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:21.521	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:21.550	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
3	01:22.456	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
4	01:22.600	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
5	01:22.706	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:23.084	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:23.670	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
8	01:23.758	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
9	01:23.993	Nico Hulkenberg   Renault
10	01:24.004	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
11	01:24.188	Sergio Perez	  Force India
12	01:24.324	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
13	01:24.400	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
14	01:24.618	Felipe Massa	  Williams
15	01:24.642	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
16	01:24.966	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
17	01:25.182	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
18	01:25.919	Lance Stroll	  Williams
19	01:26.293	Sergey Sirotkin	  Renault
20	No Time		Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
Points of note
1. All fastest times were set on the Pirelli medium compound tyre.
2. Vettel had a small problem delaying his session. It was thought to be a gearbox however now appears to be a wheel problem.
3. Fernando Alonso popped another engine resulting in no time being set.
4. Magnussen finished the session in turn 4 with a box full of neutrals.
5. Mercedes have come to this event with some substantial upgrades to their cars. I think the the Ferrari pace so far this season has them concerned.
6. Most other teams have, what seem to this outsider, fairly inconspicuous upgrades. Ferrari the most noticeable with the updated T wing.

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Sat May 13, 2017 10:48 am

FP2 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:20.802	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:20.892	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
3	01:21.112	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
4	01:21.220	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
5	01:21.438	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:21.585	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:21.687	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
8	01:21.992	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
9	01:22.015	Felipe Massa	  Williams
10	01:22.265	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
11	01:22.371	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
12	01:22.520	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
13	01:22.693	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
14	01:22.722	Sergio Perez	  Force India
15	01:23.007	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
16	01:23.082	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
17	01:23.221	Lance Stroll	  Williams
18	01:23.236	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
19	01:23.599	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
20	01:24.077	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
Points of note
1. All fastest times were recorded on the Pirelli soft compound tyre.
2. Grip. All teams are complaining of a lack of grip.
3. Wind. The wind is gusty causing drivers to lose control of their cars in the exposed turns.
4. Instability. The rear tyres seem to either be gripping or not. There doesn't seem to be an indication prior to loss of grip.

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Tue May 16, 2017 9:30 pm

FP3 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:20.214	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
2	01:20.456	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
3	01:20.595	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
4	01:20.868	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
5	01:21.025	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:21.249	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:21.670	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
8	01:21.746	Felipe Massa	  Williams
9	01:21.835	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
10	01:22.093	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
11	01:22.128	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
12	01:22.214	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
13	01:22.237	Sergio Perez	  Force India
14	01:22.297	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
15	01:22.391	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
16	01:22.513	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
17	01:22.574	Lance Stroll	  Williams
18	01:22.755	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
19	01:22.853	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
20	01:22.974	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber


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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Tue May 16, 2017 9:37 pm

Qualifying Results

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Pos	Qualifying	Driver		  Team
1	01:19.149	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:19.200	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
3	01:19.373	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
4	01:19.439	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
5	01:19.706	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:20.175	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:21.048	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
8	01:21.070	Sergio Perez	  Force India
9	01:21.232	Felipe Massa	  Williams
10	01:21.272	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
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11	01:21.329	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
12	01:21.371	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
13	01:21.397	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
14	01:21.517	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
15	01:21.803	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
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16	01:22.332	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
17	01:22.401	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
18	01:22.411	Lance Stroll	  Williams
19	01:22.532	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
20	01:22.746	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Tue May 16, 2017 9:44 pm

Race Results

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Pos	Driver		  Team
1	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
3	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
4	Sergio Perez	  Force India
5	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
6	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
7	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
8	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
9	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
10	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
11	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
12	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
13	Felipe Massa	  Williams
14	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
15	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
16	Lance Stroll	  Williams
DNF	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
DNF	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
DNF	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
DNF	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
Pascal Wehrlein incurred a 5 second penalty for an incorrect entry into the pits dropping his result from 7th to 8th.
Stoffel Vandoorne incurs a 3 grid place penalty at Monaco for his collision with Filipe Massa in turn 1.

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby cmlean » Tue May 16, 2017 9:55 pm

I decided to give my Driver of the Day vote to Pascal Wehrlein.
In the underpowered Sauber, he managed to bring the car home to a good points finish.

Closely followed by Carlos Sainz who continues to impress. This kid will get a big team drive soon.

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Re: The 2017 Spanish GP thread

Postby Thaddeus » Thu May 25, 2017 2:54 am

Gave it to Hamilton, simply because he sounded both out of breath and, for periods, down and out over the radio. The pass wasn't so impressive, but the mental resilience, and maybe physical too, was.


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