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Italy '17 - Driver of the Day

Lewis Hamilton
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Valtteri Bottas
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Sebastian Vettel
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Daniel Ricciardo
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Kimi Raikkonen
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Total votes: 1

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The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:52 pm

This is the place to discuss everything related to the 13th round of the 2017 season taking place in Monza between the 1st and 3rd of September.

To submit your 10 'n' Pole Picks for Italy click here, to register in the competition click here.

Picks for Italy close at the start of Saturday practice

The event timetable for the Italian Grand Prix.

Friday
1st Practice 10:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
2nd Practice 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Saturday
Practice 11:00 local time - 09:00 GMT
Qualifying 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Sunday
Race 14:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:59 pm

I think that Ferrari in Italy with Vettel will be difficult to beat.
I really don't think that there will be too much between the title contenders so I have given the home field advantage to Ferrari with 1st & 3rd while Mercedes are given 2nd and 4th.

And I have thrown in the 2 unluckiest drivers to finish in the 10 with Palmer finally getting a point.

So, here are my tips for Italy '17

Winner: Sebastian Vettel
Second: Lewis Hamilton
Third: Kimi Raikkonen
Fourth: Valtteri Bottas
Fifth: Max Verstappen
Sixth: Daniel Ricciardo
Seventh: Esteban Ocon
Eighth: Sergio Perez
Ninth: Nico Hulkenberg
Tenth: Jolyon Palmer

Pole: Sebastian Vettel

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:28 pm

The two Red Bulls are carrying grid penalties into this race.
Max Verstappen has a 15 grid place penalty and Daniel Ricciardo a 20 grid position penalty. All are for engine component replacements.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:42 am

Alonso is also taking a 35 position penalty.
Sainz has a 10 place penalty.
All are for engine or engine component replacements above the allocation.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:08 am

FP1 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:21.537	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:21.972	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
3	01:22.652	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
4	01:22.689	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
5	01:22.742	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
6	01:22.749	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
7	01:23.317	Sergio Perez	  Force India
8	01:23.400	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
9	01:23.465	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
10	01:23.561	Felipe Massa	  Williams
11	01:23.680	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
12	01:23.973	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
13	01:23.991	Lance Stroll	  Williams
14	01:24.012	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
15	01:24.015	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
16	01:24.079	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
17	01:24.542	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
18	01:25.166	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
19	01:25.223	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
20	01:25.687	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
A little rain disrupted the end of the session disrupted some teams and Alonso commenced his change of engine early for FP2. The engine from FP1 will be used in Singapore with the penalty applied in Monza.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:17 am

FP2 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:21.406	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
2	01:21.462	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
3	01:21.546	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
4	01:21.804	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
5	01:22.409	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
6	01:22.752	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
7	01:22.947	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
8	01:22.968	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
9	01:22.977	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
10	01:22.985	Felipe Massa	  Williams
11	01:23.150	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
12	01:23.272	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
13	01:23.317	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
14	01:23.352	Sergio Perez	  Force India
15	01:23.403	Lance Stroll	  Williams
16	01:23.567	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
17	01:23.650	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
18	01:24.253	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
19	01:24.894	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
20	01:25.295	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
Sainz looks like he broke a turbo but this is my observation.
Magnussen had a suspension failure and stopped safely on track.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:07 am

FP3 Results

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Pos	Time		Driver	  	  Team
1	01:40.7		Felipe Massa	  Williams
2	01:40.9		Lance Stroll	  Williams
3	01:41.5		Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
4	01:41.5		Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
5	01:44.4		Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
6	01:44.7		Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
7	01:45.0		Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
Well, what a miserable day. All cars ventured out in the session however only 7 drivers set a lap time.
Grid penalties were announced for both Renaults.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:22 am

Qualifying

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Pos	Time		Driver		  Team
1	01:35.554	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	01:36.702	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
3	01:36.841	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
4	01:37.032	Lance Stroll	  Williams
5	01:37.719	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
6	01:37.833	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
7	01:37.987	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
8	01:38.064	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
9	01:38.251	Felipe Massa	  Williams
10	01:39.157	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
			
11	01:37.582	Sergio Perez	  Force India
12	01:38.059	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
13	01:38.202	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
14	01:38.245	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
15	01:38.526	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
			
16	01:40.489	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
17	01:40.646	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
18	01:41.732	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
19	01:41.875	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
20	01:43.355	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
Qualifying commenced at the scheduled time however, Romain Grosjean crashed at the end on the main straight bringing out the red flags. Decisions were then made that the conditions were too dangerous and qualifying was brought to a halt for near 3 hours.

Now. Grid penalties.
Alonso 35, Ricciardo 25, Verstappen 20, Sainz 10, Hulkenberg 10, Palmer 15.
Ricciardo was penalized an additional 5 places for an unscheduled gearbox change.

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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:32 am

Grid

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Pos	Driver		  Team
1	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	Lance Stroll	  Williams
3	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
4	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
5	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
6	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
7	Felipe Massa	  Williams
8	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
9	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
10	Sergio Perez	  Force India
11	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
12	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
13	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
14	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
15	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
16	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
17	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault
18	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
19	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
20	Romain Grosjean	  Haas


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Re: The 2017 Italian GP thread

Post by cmlean » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:32 am

Race Results

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Pos	Driver		  Team
1	Lewis Hamilton	  Mercedes
2	Valtteri Bottas	  Mercedes
3	Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari
4	Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing
5	Kimi Räikkönen	  Ferrari
6	Esteban Ocon	  Force India
7	Lance Stroll	  Williams
8	Felipe Massa	  Williams
9	Sergio Perez	  Force India
10	Max Verstappen	  Red Bull Racing
11	Kevin Magnussen	  Haas
12	Daniil Kvyat	  Toro Rosso
13	Nico Hulkenberg	  Renault
14	Carlos Sainz	  Toro Rosso
15	Romain Grosjean	  Haas
16	Pascal Wehrlein	  Sauber
17	Fernando Alonso	  McLaren
18	Marcus Ericsson	  Sauber
NC	Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
NC	Jolyon Palmer	  Renault

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