San Marino Grand Prix (Alonso wins 3rd race in a row!)
Moderators: cmlean, Ed, The Qualiflyer, The Heretic
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
oh yeah!! that would be a lot of fun!!! HAhHAhKapel wrote:Imagine this forum ,if it would have been Michael's car
cheat is always VERY bad (for very loosers) but it get even wors when the champion is cheating, and EVEN wors when the 6-in-a-row champion chaets!!! that would be a lot worse, how many of their championships would result of their cheat?? anyway for me Ferrari anyway have been cheating for a long time and the fact that the rules seem not to apply for them... better not to begin with this. just a comment.
--------
Hey Julian!! let's not be ferrari-blind blind, if Webber did obvious mistakes don't justify him. Kimi has done mistakes, MShumierda did mistakes(Q!!), in some point each drive has done mistakes. Webber did it bad in Imola, we hope for you that he'll be better in Spain but don't be so ferrari-fan-style blind!!!!!
-----------
WE WANT MONTOYA BACK!!!!!!!!!
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
SGD, if you call it mistakes when a car goes wide lap after lap. because it is an ill handling pig, and eventually , (5 laps later than I expected),sgd wrote:oh yeah!! that would be a lot of fun!!! HAhHAhKapel wrote:Imagine this forum ,if it would have been Michael's car
cheat is always VERY bad (for very loosers) but it get even wors when the champion is cheating, and EVEN wors when the 6-in-a-row champion chaets!!! that would be a lot worse, how many of their championships would result of their cheat?? anyway for me Ferrari anyway have been cheating for a long time and the fact that the rules seem not to apply for them... better not to begin with this. just a comment.
--------
Hey Julian!! let's not be ferrari-blind blind, if Webber did obvious mistakes don't justify him. Kimi has done mistakes, MShumierda did mistakes(Q!!), in some point each drive has done mistakes. Webber did it bad in Imola, we hope for you that he'll be better in Spain but don't be so ferrari-fan-style blind!!!!!
-----------
WE WANT MONTOYA BACK!!!!!!!!!
Sato goes thru????
I saw one of the best demonstrations of pig driving in years at Imola
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
-
- Racer
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:46 am
- Location: Australia
Julian, I'd be very surprised if BAR did this intentionally. All the GPWC teams know they'll be scrutinised more this year. They may have made a mistake and could get DQ'd and they'll have to live with that.julian mayo wrote:He better not be, cheats are cheats, are cheats
Wasn't it last year that Williams and Toyota were DQ'd in Canada for having bigger cooling ducts ?
What amazes me though is that the FIA is appealing against their own. I have never heard of such a thing in the past. Button's cars was investigated for 6 hours before being given the all clear. There was obviously some reasonable explanation given to the stewards otherwise why would the stewards clear it ?
Hopefully we'll know a bit more next week but this is clearly a case where Max is trying to get back at the teams.
Don't be surprised to see the whole Michelin run teams get DQ'd at a race soon.
-
- Racer
- Posts: 968
- Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:56 pm
- Location: Trying to get Jnr to BLOODY SLEEP!!!!!
- Contact:
Williams are under pressure to keep BMW happy. It is better for them to blame the drivers than the chassis.
If you have a look at the practice, qualifying and race trap speeds (www.formula1.com has this info) you'll notice that Williams struggle badly in this department. they are consistently 5-10kph slower than the top teams.
I don't think MW drove a flawless race BUT how much can be attributed to the car. NH struggled for pace with a brand new engine & MW was rev restricted due to 2 race old engine. that puts pressure on the drivers to push that little bit too hard especially when BMW are putting pressure on Williams for results.
They require a car with a lot more pace if they are to compete. I think the words of JPM on Williams before the year began are start to ring true.
If you have a look at the practice, qualifying and race trap speeds (www.formula1.com has this info) you'll notice that Williams struggle badly in this department. they are consistently 5-10kph slower than the top teams.
I don't think MW drove a flawless race BUT how much can be attributed to the car. NH struggled for pace with a brand new engine & MW was rev restricted due to 2 race old engine. that puts pressure on the drivers to push that little bit too hard especially when BMW are putting pressure on Williams for results.
They require a car with a lot more pace if they are to compete. I think the words of JPM on Williams before the year began are start to ring true.
There are no stupid questions, only stupid people.......
I'm no ordinary idiot. I'm an F1 idiot!!!
146th in 8'n'Pole 2007
293rd in 8'n'Pole 2006
I'm no ordinary idiot. I'm an F1 idiot!!!
146th in 8'n'Pole 2007
293rd in 8'n'Pole 2006
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
Which will only strengthen the manufacturers resolve to splitGraham Ross wrote:Julian, I'd be very surprised if BAR did this intentionally. All the GPWC teams know they'll be scrutinised more this year. They may have made a mistake and could get DQ'd and they'll have to live with that.julian mayo wrote:He better not be, cheats are cheats, are cheats
Wasn't it last year that Williams and Toyota were DQ'd in Canada for having bigger cooling ducts ?
What amazes me though is that the FIA is appealing against their own. I have never heard of such a thing in the past. Button's cars was investigated for 6 hours before being given the all clear. There was obviously some reasonable explanation given to the stewards otherwise why would the stewards clear it ?
Hopefully we'll know a bit more next week but this is clearly a case where Max is trying to get back at the teams.
Don't be surprised to see the whole Michelin run teams get DQ'd at a race soon.
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
Webber drove anything but a flawless race. I do feel that few other drivers could have kept the pig on the black stuff as well as he managedbundy wrote:Williams are under pressure to keep BMW happy. It is better for them to blame the drivers than the chassis.
If you have a look at the practice, qualifying and race trap speeds (www.formula1.com has this info) you'll notice that Williams struggle badly in this department. they are consistently 5-10kph slower than the top teams.
I don't think MW drove a flawless race BUT how much can be attributed to the car. NH struggled for pace with a brand new engine & MW was rev restricted due to 2 race old engine. that puts pressure on the drivers to push that little bit too hard especially when BMW are putting pressure on Williams for results.
They require a car with a lot more pace if they are to compete. I think the words of JPM on Williams before the year began are start to ring true.
80% of brits polled think that Sauber will have BMW next season (BBC Motorsport) Maybe Frank has built a chassis for the Cosworth V8
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.
-
- Racer
- Posts: 687
- Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:46 am
- Location: Australia
Don't know why the assumption is that if Sauber get BMW engines Williams lose out. I don't think that is the case we may see Williams and Sauber running BMW V8's next year!
Williams and BMW have a long term contract and neither would want to break it unless by mutual agreement of course!
There is always Toyota and bundled with the engine would be Ralf Schumacher
Williams and BMW have a long term contract and neither would want to break it unless by mutual agreement of course!
There is always Toyota and bundled with the engine would be Ralf Schumacher
-
- Forum Hall of Fame
- Posts: 15661
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
- Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.
Watching that would be like watching the boatsGraham Ross wrote:Don't know why the assumption is that if Sauber get BMW engines Williams lose out. I don't think that is the case we may see Williams and Sauber running BMW V8's next
BMW have a performance, or lack of, get out clause
There is always Toyota and bundled with the engine would be Ralf Schumacher
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.
-
- F1 Race Winner
- Posts: 3394
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:17 am
- Location: Somewhere left of the middle
So your Webber is only half skilledjulian mayo wrote:With skill.sgd wrote:ok...
then explain us how could he do such a Qualif if the chassis was so bad??
then the oversteering b...h of a thing got worse over the length of the race
Now easy, put that axe down, I was only kidding
I'm back and yes supporting Alonso "The Cute" in the Ferrari!