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Post by Swanny » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:05 am

I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me :(
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Re: FIA

Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:16 am

Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me :(
It may be that todays events were just what the manufacturers wanted :shock:
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Post by polo2028 » Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:45 pm

Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me :(
Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!
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Re: FIA

Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:48 pm

polo2028 wrote:
Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me :(
Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!

Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
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Re: FIA

Post by polo2028 » Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:54 pm

julian mayo wrote:
polo2028 wrote:
Swanny wrote:I am fed up with the FIA being such idiots, they really are ruining F1.
Never thought I would say this but
The sooner the breakaway formula the better for me :(
Formula One Championship should not be under FIA - dumb idiots!

Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
FEDERATION INTERNATIONALE DE L'AUTOMOBILE
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Re: FIA

Post by Ed » Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:54 pm

julian mayo wrote: Anybody got an email address for Moseley/ FIA?
The FIA contacts are available on their contact page (http://www.fia.com/global/contacts.html)

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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:03 pm

has anybody got an EMAIL address for Moseley /FIA?
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Post by Ed » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:07 pm

julian mayo wrote:has anybody got an EMAIL address for Moseley /FIA?
No not a published one for Mosley but that page has an admin contact email. That is the only one they offer

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Post by F1greyhound » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:58 pm

The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
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Post by rah » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:04 am

F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
Nah, mate. It would probably have a lot more problems.
Ok, Lewis may win the WDC in 07, but Sato will beat him in 08.

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Post by Julian Mayo » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:43 am

rah wrote:
F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
Nah, mate. It would probably have a lot more problems.
and without Moseley and co., could probably fix them :twisted:
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Post by Graham Ross » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:27 pm

F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
How can you be so sure ?

Currently the revenue isn't ditributed evenly and that is creating the most friction.

Factual or not, the FIA as well as Bernie are seen to favour Ferrari

The rules and regulations are ambigious to say the least and the FIA seems to want to keep it that way so they can interpret each case on who the guilty party is. BAR Honda were treated harshly this year, Williams and Toyota were disqualified in Canada yet Ferrari get away with errors (more tyres allocated, stewards late in imposing penalty!!, wrong way of measurement)

The constant fiddling with the rules

The lack of an independent appeals court

If the GPWC addresses those issues (especially the financial side), I don't see why they would have the same or more problems.

Bottom line, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone are past their use by date IMO and as they insist on controlling the sport in dictatorship fashion, a split will happen.

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Post by Kapel » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:04 pm

I agree Graham that Money is the cause of friction here.
I believe Bernie has offered more money to other teams from 2008(how much i dont know)

I think apart from money,the teams should negotiate in terms of rules(N then comply to them for atleast 5 yrs), Max Mosely drowned in the Atlantic ocean(not in the Indian ocean please,i dont want him here :wink: ) , number of races(time frame) N in an event like in US,FIA has no say ,only teams decision should count.(Teams to be consulted on every critical issues.)

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Post by Julian Mayo » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:23 pm

Kapel wrote:I agree Graham that Money is the cause of friction here.
I believe Bernie has offered more money to other teams from 2008(how much i dont know)

I think apart from money,the teams should negotiate in terms of rules(N then comply to them for atleast 5 yrs), Max Mosely drowned in the Atlantic ocean(not in the Indian ocean please,i dont want him here :wink: ) , number of races(time frame) N in an event like in US,FIA has no say ,only teams decision should count.(Teams to be consulted on every critical issues.)

:roll:
I doubt that you would ever get concensus from the team managers, Kappy :shock:
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Post by polo2028 » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:31 am

Graham Ross wrote:
F1greyhound wrote:The GPWC(which wont happen..) would face the same problems.
How can you be so sure ?

Currently the revenue isn't ditributed evenly and that is creating the most friction.

Factual or not, the FIA as well as Bernie are seen to favour Ferrari

The rules and regulations are ambigious to say the least and the FIA seems to want to keep it that way so they can interpret each case on who the guilty party is. BAR Honda were treated harshly this year, Williams and Toyota were disqualified in Canada yet Ferrari get away with errors (more tyres allocated, stewards late in imposing penalty!!, wrong way of measurement)

The constant fiddling with the rules

The lack of an independent appeals court

If the GPWC addresses those issues (especially the financial side), I don't see why they would have the same or more problems.

Bottom line, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone are past their use by date IMO and as they insist on controlling the sport in dictatorship fashion, a split will happen.
It would be much better for the races under GPWC than under FIA.
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