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Aw, you're making me blushJayVee wrote:Nothing really
A bit of broken logic (learned that from gkaytaz)
And a bit of broken poetry (cause I felt like it)
You know, music does wierd things to you
It will be full advantage for 2006 Bridgestone teams at least in the early stages of the season where the winter test carried in cold temperature so the teams will have a shock in the wormer condition as performance of the tire changed dramatically. so they will work mainly in tires to make them work properly, in same time, their development program will come to halt as their comparing data need to adjusted according to tire performance, so when they add new part, they don't know if performance due to tire improvement or due to that part. (That what happened with Toyota in 2006, they kept them self away by data conflect until 7th or 8th round, then they start to face reliability problem because the are rushing R&D department to make the lost time in the beginning of the season )Julian Mayo wrote:I heard Webber interviewed on Sunday.For 2007 Bridgestone are using a tried and tested tyre which he has driven on. I dont know if any other drivers have.
Fair commentAmjad wrote:It will be full advantage for 2006 Bridgestone teams at least in the early stages of the season where the winter test carried in cold temperature so the teams will have a shock in the wormer condition as performance of the tire changed dramatically. so they will work mainly in tires to make them work properly, in same time, their development program will come to halt as their comparing data need to adjusted according to tire performance, so when they add new part, they don't know if performance due to tire improvement or due to that part. (That what happened with Toyota in 2006, they kept them self away by data conflect until 7th or 8th round, then they start to face reliability problem because the are rushing R&D department to make the lost time in the beginning of the season )Julian Mayo wrote:I heard Webber interviewed on Sunday.For 2007 Bridgestone are using a tried and tested tyre which he has driven on. I dont know if any other drivers have.
waitting 2007...
Not necessarilygkaytaz wrote:Dunno really. Guess I will go with Kimi but one thing is sure Snowy will pick Lewis HamiltonJayVee wrote:Personally I will pick Alonso every race
But I think the banker would be Fisichella (5th or 6th)
Perhaps Coulthard too (7th or 8th)
The "Banker" would have to be an experienced and consistent driver!
Yours
Good post Amjad but I have a few observationsAmjad wrote:Let's take a look to what situation will be in early 2007 (first 3-5 races)
Renault:
+ve: stable technical department +management
-ve :Have New tire supplier + proven inconstancies driver(Fiso) + rookie
Ferrari:
+ve: have massa + Fia + Bridgestone
-ve :broken of dream team technical staff+ No MS+ new face (kimi)
McLaren:
+ve: have number one in the nose of the car
-ve: will have two new driver + new tire supplier+ struggling technical department
Honda:
+ve: have stable driver lineup + stable technical department + zonta
-ve: new tire supplier
BMW:
+ve: have proven driver (Nick) + stable technical department
-ve: new tire supplier + semi rookie (kubica)
Toyota:
+ve: have stable driver lineup + stable technical department + Bridgestone
-ve: Reliability (become too aggressive)
Redbull
+ve: have proven driver (DC) + Boosted technical department
-ve: new tire supplier + new driver (Webber)
Williams:
+ve: management
-ve: new engine + rusty racer (wurz)+ no leader driver
So it will be a mess start for 2007 until the 4th or 5th round and everything settle down
I think if 2006 Bridgestone shoed car have advantage in early 2007 it will be down to Ferrari (massa) and Toyota to dominate, if not it will be really mess and no one can predict any thing until actual race start in 2007
Didn't Gascoyne leave during the season ? You aren't serious! ) There will be an advantage for Ferrari, Toyota and Williams, how much no one knows but I very much doubt it will be huge.Amjad wrote:It will be full advantage for 2006 Bridgestone teams at least in the early stages of the season where the winter test carried in cold temperature so the teams will have a shock in the wormer condition as performance of the tire changed dramatically. so they will work mainly in tires to make them work properly, in same time, their development program will come to halt as their comparing data need to adjusted according to tire performance, so when they add new part, they don't know if performance due to tire improvement or due to that part. (That what happened with Toyota in 2006, they kept them self away by data conflect until 7th or 8th round, then they start to face reliability problem because the are rushing R&D department to make the lost time in the beginning of the season )Julian Mayo wrote:I heard Webber interviewed on Sunday.For 2007 Bridgestone are using a tried and tested tyre which he has driven on. I dont know if any other drivers have.
waitting 2007...
I think the tyre is about 2-3 years old in design.JayVee wrote:There will be an advantage for Ferrari, Toyota and Williams, how much no one knows but I very much doubt it will be huge.Amjad wrote:It will be full advantage for 2006 Bridgestone teams at least in the early stages of the season where the winter test carried in cold temperature so the teams will have a shock in the wormer condition as performance of the tire changed dramatically. so they will work mainly in tires to make them work properly, in same time, their development program will come to halt as their comparing data need to adjusted according to tire performance, so when they add new part, they don't know if performance due to tire improvement or due to that part. (That what happened with Toyota in 2006, they kept them self away by data conflect until 7th or 8th round, then they start to face reliability problem because the are rushing R&D department to make the lost time in the beginning of the season )Julian Mayo wrote:I heard Webber interviewed on Sunday.For 2007 Bridgestone are using a tried and tested tyre which he has driven on. I dont know if any other drivers have.
waitting 2007...
Toyota can't be used as a yardstick. They had major problems with their tyres early in the season but that doesn't mean Renault or McLaren will. There is a huge difference between those two teams and Toyota!
If anything I think Webber is downplaying his chances. His bad experience at Williams has taught him a lot and he doesn't want to raise expecations only to be met with dissapointement half way into the season.Julian Mayo wrote:During his holiday in Oz, one Mark Webber has been grinning like a Cheshire cat.
If that is the case then only Ferrari will have an advantageJulian Mayo wrote: I think the tyre is about 2-3 years old in design.
There is a change in philosophy: in '06 we tried hard to get the tyres to suit the cars, but the reverse will be true next year. The teams will have to work hard to get their cars to suit the tyres
Verbally Webber is painting as grim a picture as sounds acceptable..........the only trouble is he cant stop grinning while he is doing soJayVee wrote:If anything I think Webber is downplaying his chances. His bad experience at Williams has taught him a lot and he doesn't want to raise expecations only to be met with dissapointement half way into the season.Julian Mayo wrote:During his holiday in Oz, one Mark Webber has been grinning like a Cheshire cat.
On paper the Red Bull should be a good car with Newey and Renault but there are other factors. Reliability for example!
I hope Webber does well cause the next season will determine which way his career will go.
I am not sure of the fact. Webber said, in an interview on air at Symmons Plains that Bridgestone was playing safe by using an older tyre, which he has driven on. It would make sense that Bridgestone is not going to pour trillions into developing tyres for a control formula.JayVee wrote:If that is the case then only Ferrari will have an advantageJulian Mayo wrote: I think the tyre is about 2-3 years old in design.
I read an article on motorsport.com where the Bridgestone director saidThere is a change in philosophy: in '06 we tried hard to get the tyres to suit the cars, but the reverse will be true next year. The teams will have to work hard to get their cars to suit the tyres
