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Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

Dzu-Fast wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

Dzu-Fast wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

gkaytaz wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

Perhaps never is indeed a tad strong.

Julian Mayo wrote:

gkaytaz wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

Perhaps never is indeed a tad strong.

So far

gkaytaz wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:

gkaytaz wrote:
Perhaps never is indeed a tad strong.

So far

Julian Mayo wrote:It is way too late

jacfan wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

I beg to differ. Lewis is VERY good so far but to say that we have never seen someone come in and do the things he's done... NO.
Not sure of you age but check back to 1996... Jacques Villeneuve.
His début was nothing less than spectacular, as he became only the third Formula One driver in history to achieve both a pole and a podium position in his maiden grand prix. He led the race until an oil leak, and team orders, forced him to slow and allow team mate Damon Hill to pass. He held on to finish second. He won four races that year, reached the podium 11 times, and finished with 78 points — all rookie records which still stand today.

• True , and never was to strong a word there , but Jac was an Indy 500 winner by then .

• Not to discount him taking F-1 by storm also , but I guess I've never thought of him as being a "novice'" to the upper echelon of the sport .

• I'm an old Indy fan so I guess being so familiar with him it didn't seem as groundbreaking as what Hamilton is doing . But I'd have to say your correct .

• Besides , I'm a tifoso , so you gotta give me a little leeway . It doesn't come out as easily when I'm talking about a non Ferrari driver.

Dzu-Fast wrote:

jacfan wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

I beg to differ. Lewis is VERY good so far but to say that we have never seen someone come in and do the things he's done... NO.
Not sure of you age but check back to 1996... Jacques Villeneuve.
His début was nothing less than spectacular, as he became only the third Formula One driver in history to achieve both a pole and a podium position in his maiden grand prix. He led the race until an oil leak, and team orders, forced him to slow and allow team mate Damon Hill to pass. He held on to finish second. He won four races that year, reached the podium 11 times, and finished with 78 points — all rookie records which still stand today.

• True , and never was to strong a word there , but Jac was an Indy 500 winner by then .

• Not to discount him taking F-1 by storm also , but I guess I've never thought of him as being a "novice'" to the upper echelon of the sport .

• I'm an old Indy fan so I guess being so familiar with him it didn't seem as groundbreaking as what Hamilton is doing . But I'd have to say your correct .

• Besides , I'm a tifoso , so you gotta give me a little leeway . It doesn't come out as easily when I'm talking about a non Ferrari driver.

jacfan wrote:So as a Ferrari fan who is your preferred driver.... Kimster or Massa?

gkaytaz wrote:

jacfan wrote:So as a Ferrari fan who is your preferred driver.... Kimster or Massa?

By the looks of it it's gotta be Eddie Irvine

jacfan wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:So he has bettered or maintained his grid position from flag to flag.......... in all 7 seven races, in his first season.........fought off Massa,Alonso....... I think a tiny bit of hype is in order

I agree 100% . If this guy doesn't deserve some hype , I don't know who does . We've never seen someone come in and do the things he's done .

I beg to differ. Lewis is VERY good so far but to say that we have never seen someone come in and do the things he's done... NO.
Not sure of you age but check back to 1996... Jacques Villeneuve.
His début was nothing less than spectacular, as he became only the third Formula One driver in history to achieve both a pole and a podium position in his maiden grand prix. He led the race until an oil leak, and team orders, forced him to slow and allow team mate Damon Hill to pass. He held on to finish second. He won four races that year, reached the podium 11 times, and finished with 78 points — all rookie records which still stand today.

jacfan wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:

jacfan wrote:I beg to differ. Lewis is VERY good so far but to say that we have never seen someone come in and do the things he's done... NO.
Not sure of you age but check back to 1996... Jacques Villeneuve.
His début was nothing less than spectacular, as he became only the third Formula One driver in history to achieve both a pole and a podium position in his maiden grand prix. He led the race until an oil leak, and team orders, forced him to slow and allow team mate Damon Hill to pass. He held on to finish second. He won four races that year, reached the podium 11 times, and finished with 78 points — all rookie records which still stand today.

• True , and never was to strong a word there , but Jac was an Indy 500 winner by then .

• Not to discount him taking F-1 by storm also , but I guess I've never thought of him as being a "novice'" to the upper echelon of the sport .

• I'm an old Indy fan so I guess being so familiar with him it didn't seem as groundbreaking as what Hamilton is doing . But I'd have to say your correct .

• Besides , I'm a tifoso , so you gotta give me a little leeway . It doesn't come out as easily when I'm talking about a non Ferrari driver.

So as a Ferrari fan who is your preferred driver.... Kimster or Massa?

• It's like having two lovely ladies chasing after you ( which happens only in my dreams ) , which ever one catches you first is your favorite . As long as they are in Red , it's all good , though Massa has stolen my heart with his moxie . But then , I try hard not to "hate" drivers , no matter what team their with . I can say something good about any of them .

• But I thought at this point it would be Massa that everyone was suprised by , because I felt he had an advantage over the two best drivers in F-1 (Alonso and Kimi) simply from being more familiar with the equipment , particularly tires .

• I suppose I would have been right had Alonso not hit the ground running in the Mclaren and I didn't see Hamilton being this big of a factor , but who did , other than Hammie himself possibly .

• So far , I've been right about Kimi not adapting faster , I suppose Oz was an abberation . Dog-gone-it , why did I have to be right about that one ?

Dzu-Fast wrote:

jacfan wrote:

Dzu-Fast wrote:

• True , and never was to strong a word there , but Jac was an Indy 500 winner by then .

• Not to discount him taking F-1 by storm also , but I guess I've never thought of him as being a "novice'" to the upper echelon of the sport .

• I'm an old Indy fan so I guess being so familiar with him it didn't seem as groundbreaking as what Hamilton is doing . But I'd have to say your correct .

• Besides , I'm a tifoso , so you gotta give me a little leeway . It doesn't come out as easily when I'm talking about a non Ferrari driver.

So as a Ferrari fan who is your preferred driver.... Kimster or Massa?

• It's like having two lovely ladies chasing after you ( which happens only in my dreams ) , which ever one catches you first is your favorite . As long as they are in Red , it's all good , though Massa has stolen my heart with his moxie . But then , I try hard not to "hate" drivers , no matter what team their with . I can say something good about any of them .

• But I thought at this point it would be Massa that everyone was suprised by , because I felt he had an advantage over the two best drivers in F-1 (Alonso and Kimi) simply from being more familiar with the equipment , particularly tires .

• I suppose I would have been right had Alonso not hit the ground running in the Mclaren and I didn't see Hamilton being this big of a factor , but who did , other than Hammie himself possibly .

• So far , I've been right about Kimi not adapting faster , I suppose Oz was an abberation . Dog-gone-it , why did I have to be right about that one ?

jacfan wrote: There were a couple of people who thought that Massa would be the WDC this year... myself included.

• I still haven't given up on that one .

As for Hambone... well Snowy was certainly singing his praises LOUD and CLEAR well before the start of the year.

• All I can say is , good show Snowy old man . Is he always that clairvoyant , or was it a once in a blue moon thing .