Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:26 pm
Nobody else driving?Julian Mayo wrote:No race pressureGhoGho wrote:And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:27 pm
One "S" makes a world of a differenceGhoGho wrote:As my german speaking father-in-law said:Julian Mayo wrote:No race pressureGhoGho wrote:And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure
"Ralpf is an as whole driver as anyone"
Probably meaning he is as complete a driver as any other.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:35 pm
He had won races with Williams only. And that was when Michael was dominating the scene. Since he's moved to Toyota he managed three podiums and one pole. I guess it must be the car. Or the wall at Indy. He never recovered from that incident in 2004. Pity...jacfan wrote:No problem Jim.
I guess big bro would be rubbing it in how many WDC he has every chance he gets. Not exactly great for the ego.
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:59 pm
But why would I provide data on RalfJim Watt wrote: I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)
What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.
Why for a driver who has spun or crashed at least once in every season he has taken part in.
Why for a driver who has had 57 retirements of which:
- were 21 accidents or clashes
- were 9 spins
So 30 out of 57 were his own fault. That is more than 52%
As for his wins, his first 4 all came immediately after a retirement and the last 2 came back to back.
Why ?
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:33 pm
Fernando Alonso will take charge and will be this year's Champion and the youngest ever triple World Champion and the first since Fangio to win back to back titles with different teamJim Watt wrote:Just got the new (June) F1 magazine. Funny how reluctant Bishop is to endorse Lewis (when they went to press we were only four races in). His essay explaining how soon Fernando would take charge shows that even people with great sources and a deep appreciation of F1's history can be swayed by their emotional attachment to a driver.
.Oh and Jim, perhaps some people get swayed too quicky too
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:49 pm
I believe he should have called it quits after crashing that curve at Indy two years in a row. Yes, some people say that the second crash wasn't really his fault but as you pointed out he had had too many retirements thanks to his own mistakes... And look at how his career progressed since 2004...JayVee wrote:But why would I provide data on RalfJim Watt wrote: I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)
What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.
Why for a driver who has spun or crashed at least once in every season he has taken part in.
Why for a driver who has had 57 retirements of which:
- were 21 accidents or clashes
- were 9 spins
So 30 out of 57 were his own fault. That is more than 52%
As for his wins, his first 4 all came immediately after a retirement and the last 2 came back to back.
Why ?
He was an average 5th place finisher that year.
Ralf has become a regular 6th place finisher in 2005. He finished 6th in the drivers standings.
Then 7th place finisher in 2006. Finished 10th thanks to a number of retirements.
Now all he can scrape up is 8th place, and that only occasionally... Now he's placed 15th. Out of 23 drivers, of which one has raced in a single GP and scored half of Ralf's pts already
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:14 pm
Why would you ?JayVee wrote:But why would I provide data on RalfJim Watt wrote: I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)
What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.
Why for a driver who has spun or crashed at least once in every season he has taken part in.
Why for a driver who has had 57 retirements of which:
- were 21 accidents or clashes
- were 9 spins
So 30 out of 57 were his own fault. That is more than 52%
As for his wins, his first 4 all came immediately after a retirement and the last 2 came back to back.
Why ?
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:15 pm
Yeah and all that when she didn'tJulian Mayo wrote:
Why would you ?
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:22 pm
Ralf is dogmeat when she doesgkaytaz wrote:Yeah and all that when she didn'tJulian Mayo wrote:
Why would you ?
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:21 am
Ralf only tried to turn into Webbo once 
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:47 am
God Bless you, Jay Vee! I laughed and laughed as you posted those brilliant figures on dear Ralphie. And you inspired some thoughtful further statistics from GKayTaz [whom I decipher as a person from Tasmania, an Island S. of Australia. Strictly on the basis of the origin of this EXCELLENT list.]
At any rate, it can't be fun to be earning all that cash as you slide back further and further into the back markers. Still, that's better than NOT earning all that cash!
As to your loyalty to Fernando; I admire it. Just like I admire JacFan's love of the (not so) lovable Jacques. But having spent several hours watching Lewis and Fernando in identical cars last week, I don't see him taking charge any time soon.
On the other hand, just to show how weakly I follow my own logic, I still BELIEVE in Kimi. Even though the reasons to doubt are getting more and more evident!
I guess that's why we HAVE races. And why we watch them. Even getting up in the middle of the blinking night to do so. Or going out in the BLAZING sun to see them live!!]
(In my case, in the middle of the night it's always with my headphones on, so I can get the full sound without waking my beloved wife. Who went out for practice last week with me on Friday and, after dinner said: "I can kind of see why you love it so. The rush is kind of addictive; having your eyeballs struggle to keep up with the pace and then being smacked in the stomach by the sound. But it's really just too exhausting for me!")
And that reminds me, too, of why I so ENJOY this list. We all have such a good time while we wait our way through the long, L O O O N G G periods between races.
Jim Watt 
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:56 am
Jim Watt wrote:
God Bless you, Jay Vee! I laughed and laughed as you posted those brilliant figures on dear Ralphie. And you inspired some thoughtful further statistics from GKayTaz [whom I decipher as a person from Tasmania, an Island S. of Australia. Strictly on the basis of the origin of this EXCELLENT list.]
At any rate, it can't be fun to be earning all that cash as you slide back further and further into the back markers. Still, that's better than NOT earning all that cash!
As to your loyalty to Fernando; I admire it. Just like I admire JacFan's love of the (not so) lovable Jacques. But having spent several hours watching Lewis and Fernando in identical cars last week, I don't see him taking charge any time soon.
On the other hand, just to show how weakly I follow my own logic, I still BELIEVE in Kimi. Even though the reasons to doubt are getting more and more evident!
I guess that's why we HAVE races. And why we watch them. Even getting up in the middle of the blinking night to do so. Or going out in the BLAZING sun to see them live!!]
(In my case, in the middle of the night it's always with my headphones on, so I can get the full sound without waking my beloved wife. Who went out for practice last week with me on Friday and, after dinner said: "I can kind of see why you love it so. The rush is kind of addictive; having your eyeballs struggle to keep up with the pace and then being smacked in the stomach by the sound. But it's really just too exhausting for me!")
And that reminds me, too, of why I so ENJOY this list. We all have such a good time while we wait our way through the long, L O O O N G G periods between races.
Pass on a cuddle to your better half.I suspect that GK is, and only will ever be, an honarary Tasmanian
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:58 pm
Gkay I believe is from the northern hemisphere Tasmania.
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:18 pm
jacfan wrote:Gkay I believe is from the northern hemisphere Tasmania.
What do They look like ?
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:19 pm
Sigh........Off we go to the off topic threadJulian Mayo wrote:jacfan wrote:Gkay I believe is from the northern hemisphere Tasmania.
