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I think the MW - Kovi option is about all Renault can afford. Schuey will be at Ferrari or goooooooorn. No way he is going to bother grooming another team.

Julian Mayo wrote:I think the MW - Kovi option is about all Renault can afford. Schuey will be at Ferrari or goooooooorn. No way he is going to bother grooming another team.

Geeze you were up early for a Friday and posting what's occuring dude? Had I known I'd have checked back earlier!

What's all this MW Renault stuff? Have we totally lost the faith with Williams? I suppose we couldn't blame him for quiting them but isn't that a bit Jenson? I mean without the controversy of course.

The sparrow farted early Snowy MW will go where Briatore tells him. Briatore says MW is absolutely, definitely not going to Renault....QED

rah wrote:

JayVee wrote:

rah wrote:It will be Fisi and Schumi or Kimi.

Renault don't pay so I can't see Michael there
I think Briatore is just saying that to put pressure on Fisichella

MS has enough money now. Everyone knows he wants to finish on a high. He will go with whoever he thinks he can win with.

Kimi will be at Ferrari or Renault next year, I really don't think he can consider any other team at the moment.

Seriously rah, do you think Ferrari have the car so he finishes on a high ? It looks like Ferrari struggles in race pace just like Honda. They just have a better race strategy.

And aren't all the key people at Ferrari leaving at the end of this year ? Can anyone confirm ?

Renault will not pay lots of money for their drivers. They don't have a big budget like Ferrari or McLaren.

As for Kimi, there is McLaren Or is he too scared

rah wrote: I reckon the only people Renault want now are Kimi or MS. They need a champ or a soon to be champ. No one else could make marketing sense.

I think they can repeat what they did with Alonso with Kovalainen.
Marketing sense ? Did they count on Alonso winning the championship for them last year ?

Snowy wrote:The cost think of the cost! Renault running Kovi is the best option, he regularly tops the tests and has even outpaced Fer nandO (I sang his name! did you notice? It was very Abba) on occassion. I reckon he is quicker and that is why Fer nandO (I did it again!) jumped ship. He said pay me more or I go. And Renault said 'so go we have our secret weapon of mass domination; Kovi.' Fer nandO said 'I'm off to Mclaren then' and they all laughed their collective heads off

Fisichella has even outpaced Alonso at tests

Yes Kovalainen is good and that is why I am looking forward to watching someone able to fight with Alonso but moving to McLaren because of him
He is willing to take on Montoya or Raikkonen as long as it isn't Kovalainen, very logical

Julian Mayo wrote:I think the MW - Kovi option is about all Renault can afford.

Agree but Flavio can't afford that

Julian Mayo wrote:Schuey will be at Ferrari or goooooooorn. No way he is going to bother grooming another team.

Agree, he will be goooooooorn

JayVee wrote: Seriously rah, do you think Ferrari have the car so he finishes on a high ? It looks like Ferrari struggles in race pace just like Honda. They just have a better race strategy.

And aren't all the key people at Ferrari leaving at the end of this year ? Can anyone confirm ?

Renault will not pay lots of money for their drivers. They don't have a big budget like Ferrari or McLaren.

As for Kimi, there is McLaren Or is he too scared

JayVee, I completely agree with you. Which obviously means I have been misunderstood.
Ferrari do not have the car to get the WDC. Probably wont until a few years after Todt buggers off. Too many people trying to get in line for his job. MS is a smart man. He is also a very rich man. He does not need a fat pay cheque, he needs a WDC. He will go to whatever team he thinks will help him win the WDC, regardless of the pay cheque.

Kimi could stay at McLaren, but I think that would be the third option. I reckon he has already signed a contract with Ferrari.

JayVee wrote:How about Briatore replaces Dennis Might as well

How 'bout Niki Lauda replaces Max Mosley!! It couldn't hurt, and he knows how to deal with Ecclestone.



Chris

RE30B#16 wrote:

JayVee wrote:How about Briatore replaces Dennis Might as well

How 'bout Niki Lauda replaces Max Mosley!! It couldn't hurt, and he knows how to deal with Ecclestone.



Chris

And a certain Aussie ex-team owner replaces Bernie

F1-NUT wrote:Hi dudes and dudettes, how's it going in groove town?

Mmm. As to this debate. Well, to start off, let me mention that Flavio is a git. He almost seems to relish taking apart the Renault 'second' driver. Fisi just hasn't got what he's after, which is another Alonso, so even though I voted that Fisi would leave at the end of the season, it's possible he could go before, if Flavio keeps on at him. He's almost 'Ron Dennision' in his approach to the second position, don't you think? And despite DC's great record at McClaren, DC didn't really chill out till he left. I wonder why that was? Dennis, of course. The man is a personal disaster area - he either loves you or hates you. Seems to me like Flav should give more support and less public criticism, he obviously is not a motivator, otherwise he wouldn't be so down on Fisi all the time.

As for Fisi, I don't rate him. It's no good having flashes of brilliance, he's gone sooner or later, unless he can turn his season around.

Flavio has a dark side granted but as yet he has been nothing but supportive of Fisi. Fisi is repeating his previous seasons results but perhaps for different reasons, like Kimi in the Mclaren he has been on the receiving end of some strange misfortune. The qualifying system is destroying their weekends. It is a shame that F1 should be using such contrived systems to make the race weekend interesting. Why don't they just introduce a ballast system so whoever wins one GP doesn't get to win the championship. Ask Andy Prioulx! it worked for him he won the world touring car championship with just one race win and they have two races at every meet! Ha!

What the flip was wrong with F1 right the way through the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90's? Nothing that's what! Nothing at all! I hate Max Max is the miserablest little s**t on the planet. He makes Flavio look like the Dalai Lama!

F1-NUT wrote:Hi dudes and dudettes, how's it going in groove town?

Mmm. As to this debate. Well, to start off, let me mention that Flavio is a git. He almost seems to relish taking apart the Renault 'second' driver. Fisi just hasn't got what he's after, which is another Alonso, so even though I voted that Fisi would leave at the end of the season, it's possible he could go before, if Flavio keeps on at him. He's almost 'Ron Dennision' in his approach to the second position, don't you think? And despite DC's great record at McClaren, DC didn't really chill out till he left. I wonder why that was? Dennis, of course. The man is a personal disaster area - he either loves you or hates you. Seems to me like Flav should give more support and less public criticism, he obviously is not a motivator, otherwise he wouldn't be so down on Fisi all the time.

As for Fisi, I don't rate him. It's no good having flashes of brilliance, he's gone sooner or later, unless he can turn his season around.

in your humble opinion

Julian Mayo wrote:

F1-NUT wrote:Hi dudes and dudettes, how's it going in groove town?

Mmm. As to this debate. Well, to start off, let me mention that Flavio is a git. He almost seems to relish taking apart the Renault 'second' driver. Fisi just hasn't got what he's after, which is another Alonso, so even though I voted that Fisi would leave at the end of the season, it's possible he could go before, if Flavio keeps on at him. He's almost 'Ron Dennision' in his approach to the second position, don't you think? And despite DC's great record at McClaren, DC didn't really chill out till he left. I wonder why that was? Dennis, of course. The man is a personal disaster area - he either loves you or hates you. Seems to me like Flav should give more support and less public criticism, he obviously is not a motivator, otherwise he wouldn't be so down on Fisi all the time.

As for Fisi, I don't rate him. It's no good having flashes of brilliance, he's gone sooner or later, unless he can turn his season around.

in your humble opinion

Oh Mayo, why are you so cheap? Shame on you!

F1-NUT wrote:Hi dudes and dudettes, how's it going in groove town?

Mmm. As to this debate. Well, to start off, let me mention that Flavio is a git. He almost seems to relish taking apart the Renault 'second' driver. Fisi just hasn't got what he's after, which is another Alonso, so even though I voted that Fisi would leave at the end of the season, it's possible he could go before, if Flavio keeps on at him. He's almost 'Ron Dennision' in his approach to the second position, don't you think? And despite DC's great record at McClaren, DC didn't really chill out till he left. I wonder why that was? Dennis, of course. The man is a personal disaster area - he either loves you or hates you. Seems to me like Flav should give more support and less public criticism, he obviously is not a motivator, otherwise he wouldn't be so down on Fisi all the time.

As for Fisi, I don't rate him. It's no good having flashes of brilliance, he's gone sooner or later, unless he can turn his season around.

If you don't rate Fisi and I don't blame you but what do you expect Flavio to say ?

Fisi goes on and on about how confident he is to win because he has a better engine than Alonso yet he finished 8th and there was no stall, no bungled stop, nothing but a driver who gets easily distracted if anything goes wrong. He didn't make the top 10 in qualifying
By contrast, Alonso had double the fuel in Malaysia, qualified 8th and finished 2nd.
Even though I haven't seen much public critisism from Flavio for Fisichella, I wouldn't blame him for whatever he says. Fisichella is supposed to be the highly underrated driver, a future world champion, well he isn't and if Flavio wants to defend Renault's title next year, he better get someone other than Fisichella to do that. I think Kovalainen has a better chance and that is why I think Fisichella will be dumped before the end of the season.