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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:21 am
by jacfan
Lucky cause I was begining to think I would have to spank you. 8)

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:38 am
by GhoGho
jacfan wrote:Lucky cause I was begining to think I would have to spank you. 8)
Julian, :shock: You lucky devil you :smokin:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:20 am
by Julian Mayo
It was, it was, it was,it was, :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:21 am
by Julian Mayo
GhoGho wrote:
jacfan wrote:Lucky cause I was begining to think I would have to spank you. 8)
Julian, :shock: You lucky devil you :smokin:
To the back of the queue, Buddy :evil:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:31 pm
by Amjad
Julian Mayo wrote:
Amjad wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
I doffs me lid to you, Your Astuteness. :lol:

I am firmly of the belief that Ralf is employed by the Cologne (Germany) based Toyota team for reasons other than his ability to hit the same piece of Indiana architecture, in the same spot, two years running. :wink:
Great effort Julian Mayo, you now blam ralf because of blown tyres, mistake which michalin scream on air that its problem, did you see what i mean? you just want to blam, that all.

Year before last wasn't michelin to blam. :shock:
in 2004 tyre deflation caused by deprise
see race report from grandprix.com http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/rr722.html

as i quote " Ralf Schumacher augured into the wall at the final corner after a rear tyre deflated, almost certainly because of debris from the shunt"

and motorsport.com /
{http://www.motorsport.com/magazine/feat ... 2004-06-23}

as i quote from Nikki Reynolds comment "Ralf's crash was caused by the same thing as Alonso's -- debris from the first pile-up producing a puncture."

so its the tyre.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:41 pm
by Julian Mayo
Amjad wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
Amjad wrote:
Great effort Julian Mayo, you now blam ralf because of blown tyres, mistake which michalin scream on air that its problem, did you see what i mean? you just want to blam, that all.

Year before last wasn't michelin to blam. :shock:
in 2004 tyre deflation caused by deprise
see race report from grandprix.com http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/rr722.html

as i quote " Ralf Schumacher augured into the wall at the final corner after a rear tyre deflated, almost certainly because of debris from the shunt"

and motorsport.com /
{http://www.motorsport.com/magazine/feat ... 2004-06-23}

as i quote from Nikki Reynolds comment "Ralf's crash was caused by the same thing as Alonso's -- debris from the first pile-up producing a puncture."

so its the tyre.
Senna, Jim Clark, Jack Brabham, Nigel,Alain Prost, Alonso et al, not to mention my blind Uncle Fred, who insists on driving the "paddock basher" when he has had a few would have kept it off the wall

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:46 pm
by Amjad
GhoGho wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
Amjad wrote:
Great effort Julian Mayo, you now blam ralf because of blown tyres, mistake which michalin scream on air that its problem, did you see what i mean? you just want to blam, that all.

Year before last wasn't michelin to blam. :shock:
I too would like to play the blam game.
Toyota is to blam.
Why?
Because thay persist with 2 good drivers, but a driver combination which will never allow them to win races, let alone championships.
The styles and preferences of the 2 drivers are so different that the car will never be developed fully in one direction or another.
Earlier in the season when Ralph was going well, Jarno was crying about the way the car feels. Now, with the latest developments, the car is better suited to Jarno and Ralph is strugling to find a good setup resulting in lack of faith in the car.
If a driver has no confidence in the car he wont get results. (Julian excluded as I get the feeling he would drive the wheels off anything :wink: )

Toyota need to hire 2 drivers with similar driving styles and likes/dislikes in the way a car feels, only then they will be able to develop the car to the drivers strengths and start winning races.

If this means dropping Ralph so be it!

In My Humble Opinion 8)
Good sight, but i don't think every team have tow driver with the same preferance it is to the driver to adjust his driving style with time according to the car behaviors but teams develop cars according to the driver feed back, so with time it become suitable for them.
and you don't need to hide, i stop biting since last monday .

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:59 pm
by Julian Mayo
traditionally a team will start with the preferred set up for each driver in his car.
As soon as one driver gains an asendency in the points over the other, the development of the car is biased towards that driver. In some teams it might have to be a biiger points margin, than in other teams.
If Massa was leading Alonso now, and Scummaker was nowhere, Massa would be getting development parts geared to his particular style.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:22 pm
by GhoGho
Julian Mayo wrote:traditionally a team will start with the preferred set up for each driver in his car.
As soon as one driver gains an asendency in the points over the other, the development of the car is biased towards that driver. In some teams it might have to be a biiger points margin, than in other teams.
If Massa was leading Alonso now, and Scummaker was nowhere, Massa would be getting development parts geared to his particular style.
Presactly :!:
Problem starts when you no longer have a single person in charge, but rather a committee as in the case of toyota

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:39 pm
by Julian Mayo
GhoGho wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:traditionally a team will start with the preferred set up for each driver in his car.
As soon as one driver gains an asendency in the points over the other, the development of the car is biased towards that driver. In some teams it might have to be a biiger points margin, than in other teams.
If Massa was leading Alonso now, and Scummaker was nowhere, Massa would be getting development parts geared to his particular style.
Presactly :!:
Problem starts when you no longer have a single person in charge, but rather a committee as in the case of toyota
perzackly
which is why the F team has done so well in this era. :evil:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:47 pm
by jacfan
Julian be nice. Just because you don't like Ralf does not mean that everyone has to agree with you. :blah: I really think you are being mean and should say sorry. :threat:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:50 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Julian be nice. Just because you don't like Ralf does not mean that everyone has to agree with you. :blah: I really think you are being mean and should say sorry. :threat:
:no: :box: :duel: :excuse: :no:
Have I ever, ever claimed to be nice :no: :box: :duel: :knight: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :bcomp: :bcomp: :bcomp:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:52 pm
by jacfan
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Julian be nice. Just because you don't like Ralf does not mean that everyone has to agree with you. :blah: I really think you are being mean and should say sorry. :threat:
:no: :box: :duel: :excuse: :no:
Have I ever, ever claimed to be nice :no: :box: :duel: :knight: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :bcomp: :bcomp: :bcomp:
:roll: :roll: Hmmmmm I am definitely going have take you in hand my lad. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:55 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Julian be nice. Just because you don't like Ralf does not mean that everyone has to agree with you. :blah: I really think you are being mean and should say sorry. :threat:
:no: :box: :duel: :excuse: :no:
Have I ever, ever claimed to be nice :no: :box: :duel: :knight: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :axe: :bcomp: :bcomp: :bcomp:
:roll: :roll: Hmmmmm I am definitely going have take you in hand my lad. :roll: :roll: :roll:

:shock: .................(thinks.........) :woohoo: :hitit: :good: :that: :woohoo: :up: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :soon: :woohoo:

(thinks...........maybe.......uh oh....... :oops: )

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:18 am
by Amjad
Julian Mayo wrote:
Amjad wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:

Year before last wasn't michelin to blam. :shock:
in 2004 tyre deflation caused by deprise
see race report from grandprix.com http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/rr722.html

as i quote " Ralf Schumacher augured into the wall at the final corner after a rear tyre deflated, almost certainly because of debris from the shunt"

and motorsport.com /
{http://www.motorsport.com/magazine/feat ... 2004-06-23}

as i quote from Nikki Reynolds comment "Ralf's crash was caused by the same thing as Alonso's -- debris from the first pile-up producing a puncture."

so its the tyre.
Senna, Jim Clark, Jack Brabham, Nigel,Alain Prost, Alonso et al, not to mention my blind Uncle Fred, who insists on driving the "paddock basher" when he has had a few would have kept it off the wall
Let me understand that straight, You said that Senna, Jim Clark, Jack Brabham, Nigel,Alain, Prost, Alonso and your blind Uncle Fred, can control car with blown tyre at 280 km/hr with about 3.5 G-force. fantastic so they are not human, they are superman.
Please be sense.
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