The 2007 German Grand Prix

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Driver of the day ?

Fernando Alonso
9
45%
Felipe Massa
0
No votes
Mark Webber
6
30%
Alex Wurz
0
No votes
David Coulthard
2
10%
David Coulthard
2
10%
Nick Heidfeld
0
No votes
Robert Kubica
1
5%
Heikki Kovalainen
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 20

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Post by <T-K> » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:52 pm

JayVee wrote:
Oh and I cannot stand James Allen anymore. Why not call it the Formula Hamilton Show

"...Tons of standing water at the first turn which caught out Lewis Hamilton, who amazingly managed to keep it running and rejoin..."

Coulda sworn I saw a couple other cars parked around him :lol:

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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:11 pm

<T-K> wrote:
JayVee wrote:
Oh and I cannot stand James Allen anymore. Why not call it the Formula Hamilton Show

"...Tons of standing water at the first turn which caught out Lewis Hamilton, who amazingly managed to keep it running and rejoin..."

Coulda sworn I saw a couple other cars parked around him :lol:
It was funny :lol: He went straight, not realizing that turn one was already there :lol:

Actually I thought he had hit the barrier but apparently not.

Anyway, that "parking lot" was perhaps one of the best I have seen for the last oh, 20 years...
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:14 pm

<T-K> wrote: "...Tons of standing water at the first turn which caught out Lewis Hamilton, who amazingly managed to keep it running and rejoin..."
To be perfectly honest he was just lucky that his engine didn't stall.
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:15 pm

Only eight people voted but we already have 4 Drivers of the Day :) Another proof that the German GP was one of the better races :drive:
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:28 pm

Was Hamilton really favored? Claims are that during the pileup in the gravel trap at turn one he was given preferential treatment. Some say that his was not the only engine that was running at the time.

It's news from a rather questionable Spanish paper but could be worth pondering if true.

The full text is here (in Spanish. Don't feel like translating, sorry):

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Favore ... mot_5/Tes/
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Post by GhoGho » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:11 pm

gkaytaz wrote:
JayVee wrote: Hamilton got many chances to recover but didn't take advantage. Interesting that he got back into the race with the help of a crane :shock:
There was a discussion about that in an F1 related program... They say if the engine is still running and it'll take less time and effort to bring the car back to the track without endangering the race then the crane shall do so. Same goes for marshals pushing it back onto the track.
Thanks GK, i was wondering about that too. It used to be that no outside assistance was allowed, with an automatic DSQ if the marshals helped.
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Post by Ed » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:13 pm

gkaytaz wrote: It was funny :lol: He went straight, not realizing that turn one was already there :lol:

Actually I thought he had hit the barrier but apparently not.

Anyway, that "parking lot" was perhaps one of the best I have seen for the last oh, 20 years...
It was unreal! With the camera focused on Hamilton, I think 3 or 4 cars just started to slide there! There goes one, and another one and another one then with the safety car speeding up to aviod a flying Toro Rosso. Yes it was the best I have seen in years!! Brazil a few years ago comes close and of course the Spa pileup!!

I actually think Hamilton did nudge the barrier but yes he was very lucky but equally smart by keeping the engine running after the initial off and staying in the car. I suspect some smart team thinking too.

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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:18 pm

GhoGho wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
JayVee wrote: Hamilton got many chances to recover but didn't take advantage. Interesting that he got back into the race with the help of a crane :shock:
There was a discussion about that in an F1 related program... They say if the engine is still running and it'll take less time and effort to bring the car back to the track without endangering the race then the crane shall do so. Same goes for marshals pushing it back onto the track.
Thanks GK, i was wondering about that too. It used to be that no outside assistance was allowed, with an automatic DSQ if the marshals helped.
I guess that part of the rules has been changed :conf3:
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:21 pm

Ed wrote:
gkaytaz wrote: It was funny :lol: He went straight, not realizing that turn one was already there :lol:

Actually I thought he had hit the barrier but apparently not.

Anyway, that "parking lot" was perhaps one of the best I have seen for the last oh, 20 years...
It was unreal! With the camera focused on Hamilton, I think 3 or 4 cars just started to slide there! There goes one, and another one and another one then with the safety car speeding up to aviod a flying Toro Rosso. Yes it was the best I have seen in years!! Brazil a few years ago comes close and of course the Spa pileup!!

I actually think Hamilton did nudge the barrier but yes he was very lucky but equally smart by keeping the engine running after the initial off and staying in the car. I suspect some smart team thinking too.
Sutil was very lucky.

Speed also narrowly missed Hamilton :shock:

McLaren team probably told Hamilton to keep the engine running if the damage was not very serious.

I held my breath when Liuzzi came flying behind the safety car and nearly crashed into the crane full force...

It was melo-dramatic :lol: Perhaps not as spectacular as the Spa pileup but still one of the cool ones. Especially since no one got hurt one bit, except a few egos :wink:
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Post by GhoGho » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:32 pm

gkaytaz wrote:Was Hamilton really favored? Claims are that during the pileup in the gravel trap at turn one he was given preferential treatment. Some say that his was not the only engine that was running at the time.

It's news from a rather questionable Spanish paper but could be worth pondering if true.

The full text is here (in Spanish. Don't feel like translating, sorry):

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Favore ... mot_5/Tes/

or for the google english version (which is amusing in itself)

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools
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Post by <T-K> » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:55 pm

Not the easiest article to understand :lol:

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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:59 pm

GhoGho wrote: or for the google english version (which is amusing in itself)
I love the way those web translators use the language :lol:
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Post by gkaytaz » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:00 am

<T-K> wrote:Not the easiest article to understand :lol:
Driving an F1 car during yesterday's torrential rail might be easier :wink:
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Post by gkaytaz » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:06 am

This part of the translation takes the cake :rolling:
"Scott Speed, who already had gotten off itself before his Toro Rosso, as she marks by security the regulation well of ENTRUSTS it in articulated his, could not avoid to be surprised when seeing as the crane took the single-seater of the Briton until placing it, again, on the brink of madness the track so that she could follow his participation in the great prize."
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Post by GhoGho » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:10 am

gkaytaz wrote:This part of the translation takes the cake :rolling:
"Scott Speed, who already had gotten off itself before his Toro Rosso, as she marks by security the regulation well of ENTRUSTS it in articulated his, could not avoid to be surprised when seeing as the crane took the single-seater of the Briton until placing it, again, on the brink of madness the track so that she could follow his participation in the great prize."
So is SS a he she or it? :lol:
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