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Bundy wrote:

JayVee wrote: Many seem to have read some inaccurate information about senior management at McLaren other than Coughlan knew about this.

So far I haven't see anything from the FIA, McLaren or even Ferrari showing that McLaren knew anything about this.

I don't doubt that Coughlan was the only one who knew about this at McLaren BUT as an employee of McLaren he IS McLaren.

Once they knew about it he was suspended. The team has lost instantly their chief designer. You will always have crooks who for some reason get frustrated with something in life and turn bad.
If Coughlan did indeed keep these documents at home and didn't share it with anyone, why would McLaren be punished ?
Is it for their lack of control over their employees ?

Nigel Stepney is an even dirtier crook (assuming he delivered the documentation), now should Ferrari be also penalised cause they allowed one of their guys to access this kind of data and they couldn't detect early on that this information could be leaked to another team ?

JayVee wrote:

Bundy wrote:

JayVee wrote: Many seem to have read some inaccurate information about senior management at McLaren other than Coughlan knew about this.

So far I haven't see anything from the FIA, McLaren or even Ferrari showing that McLaren knew anything about this.

I don't doubt that Coughlan was the only one who knew about this at McLaren BUT as an employee of McLaren he IS McLaren.

Once they know about it he was suspended. The team has lost instantly their chief designer. You will always have crooks who for some reason get frustrated with something in life and turn bad.
If Coughlan did indeed keep these documents at home and didn't share it with anyone, why would McLaren be punished ?
Is it for their lack of control over their employees ?

Nigel Stepney is an even dirtier crook (assuming he delivered the documentation), now should Ferrari be also penalised cause they allowed one of their guys to access this kind of data and they couldn't detect early on that this information could be leaked to another team ?

He should be charged with a criminal offence. Why would you penalise a team when they have been the victim of the crime?

I understand your point of view BUT I just disagree with it. In my business if one of our employees did a similar thing my business would be in the poop, as well as him individually. He is a representative of my business and as such I am responsible for his business actions even if he commits his crime away from the office & I didn't know about it, he operates under my business, it is my business that suffers the consequences. I would risk losing my licence & would more than likely have restrictions place on me.

If he had taken Ducati's notes or Yamaha's from MotoGP you could argue it has nothing to do with McLaren. But a CHIEF DESIGNER at McLaren has Ferrari documentation. He isn't a little sh*t kicker, he is a SENIOR REPRESENTATIVE of McLaren.

He has Ferrari information, he's obviously read all or part of it. He knows Ferrari details that no-one else outside of Ferrari knows. McLaren have gained an advantage. They are responsible for his hiring, they are responsible for him. It's no different in the corporate world or even life.

I don't believe they should be docked points....In the WDC or WCC but they must be penailsed.

It ain't over yet, IF Ferrari push it.
Jacfan.........any senior employee from the design area usually has to take "gardening leave" before joining another team....it used to be a year, now I think six months suffices......with the speed of development these days, his knowledge is redundant.
As for the rest guys ask yourself the standard copper's question..........who stood to gain........not McLaren.......any copying is too stoopid for words with the pitlane spies the innundo....they don't gain....................Ferrari? some dumb strategy with all the leaks.....they don't gain...........now ask yourselves.......... who did to stand to gain.
BMW
Honda
Or two dissatisfied idiots

Julian Mayo wrote:It ain't over yet, IF Ferrari push it.
Jacfan.........any senior employee from the design area usually has to take "gardening leave" before joining another team....it used to be a year, now I think six months suffices......with the speed of development these days, his knowledge is redundant.
As for the rest guys ask yourself the standard copper's question..........who stood to gain........not McLaren.......any copying is too stoopid for words with the pitlane spies the innundo....they don't gain....................Ferrari? some dumb strategy with all the leaks.....they don't gain...........now ask yourselves.......... who did to stand to gain.
BMW
Honda
Or two dissatisfied idiots

Oh ok.

jacfan wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:It ain't over yet, IF Ferrari push it.
Jacfan.........any senior employee from the design area usually has to take "gardening leave" before joining another team....it used to be a year, now I think six months suffices......with the speed of development these days, his knowledge is redundant.
As for the rest guys ask yourself the standard copper's question..........who stood to gain........not McLaren.......any copying is too stoopid for words with the pitlane spies the innundo....they don't gain....................Ferrari? some dumb strategy with all the leaks.....they don't gain...........now ask yourselves.......... who did to stand to gain.
BMW
Honda
Or two dissatisfied idiots

Oh ok.

Now I am very very scared

Julian Mayo wrote:It ain't over yet, IF Ferrari push it.
Jacfan.........any senior employee from the design area usually has to take "gardening leave" before joining another team....it used to be a year, now I think six months suffices......with the speed of development these days, his knowledge is redundant.
As for the rest guys ask yourself the standard copper's question..........who stood to gain........not McLaren.......any copying is too stoopid for words with the pitlane spies the innundo....they don't gain....................Ferrari? some dumb strategy with all the leaks.....they don't gain...........now ask yourselves.......... who did to stand to gain.
BMW
Honda
Or two dissatisfied idiots

JM as a ex-copper you are no doubt better versed than most of us in the real reasons humans act the way they do. Obviously Coughlan and Stepney were the ones that stood to gain the most in this episode, but the only way they could gain is by using the information to the benefit of a Ferrari rival, whether that rival was aware of where that benefit was derived from or not.

Coughlans motives for possesing the information were to give himself an advantage as a designer. Maybe it was primarily to improve his and Stepneys employment chances with Honda, but his employment chances are also greatly increased by the performance of the Mclaren car as well, the faster it goes, the more employable he is. IMHO it is too simple to me to say he only used this information to improve his chances with someone else but he wouldnt have dreamed of using it at Mclaren.

Coughlan was aware of this information for so long, while he had a position of major influence over the design and development of the Mclaren car, that I find it almost impossible to believe that things he has learned from the 780 pages information didnt form part of his thinking as he went about his job. No-one else has to be aware of where the information is coming from. These guys work at a frantic pace, dealing with many new ideas every day. Coughlan wouldnt say "lets make that widget 24.2368mm because I read it on the Ferrari design" he'll just say"why dont we make that widget 24.2368mm".

F1 cars are complex systems and 780 pages of technical information from your main rival is bound to contain insights that will benefit you. Of course Mclaren would never do anything that could overtly be seen as copying, but theres a lot goes on under the skin of a race car that we dont see, and the way it all comes together to create a fast car, that could easily be derived from the Ferrari information without ever being construed to be a direct copy.

Of course I am only speculating and we will never know the truth. The burden of proof on Ferrari is far too high, even if some court forced Mclaren to hand over a complete car and gave the full access to their IT systems, it would probably be impossible to tell (by now). At the very least I have to disagree that Mclaren did not stand to gain from Coughlans possesion of the information, whether they knew it or not.

As for the incomprehensibilty of the FIA WMSC verdict and non-sanction, the verdict was that Mclaren (not Coughlan) were in possesion of the information in breach of the rules. To not receive a sanction is a complete mystery, they didnt even say there was 'no' evidence the information hadnt been used, they said there was 'insufficient' evidence, or in other words there was some evidence that the information had been used.

Jean Todt has stated that the 'clarification request' on the Ferrari floor design was based on the stolen information, and it is clear that Mclaren benefitted from the change in the testing procedure that resulted. This issue is sufficiently muddied by the fact that it was Ferrari taking advantage of a poorly formulated rule, i.e. probably not within the 'intent' of the original rule, and as Jean Todt put it Mclaren are claiming some sort of whistleblower status and that their use of the information in this case is some sort of an exception.

Personally I am glad that either chamionship points have not been affected by this saga, the results are tainted already as far as I am concerned, but it would be far worse to have a championship that was decided by a commitee decision. As for the poitics behind the committee decision, that would take an even longer post.

What of the White Powder?

Julian Mayo wrote:What of the White Powder?

Autosport (Friday the 13th July) wrote:Modena district attorney Giuseppe Tibis has said he expects tests on the white powder, discovered on Ferrari's cars prior to the Monaco Grand Prix, only to be concluded in the next few weeks.

"As far as I know it's not calcium phosphate, not at all," Tibis was quoted as saying by Gazzetta dello Sport. "On August 3 or 4 everything will be revealed: the substance, its concentration and its effects."

Guess we'll have to wait until then

There is only one motive for crime. Personal gain....wether it be emotional gain,......A crime of Passion,......or Financial gain.

Julian Mayo wrote:There is only one motive for crime. Personal gain....wether it be emotional gain,......A crime of Passion,......or Financial gain.

True.

Julian Mayo wrote:What of the White Powder?

Kimi's personal stash?

The President of ACI - CSAI (Automobile Club D'Italia - Commission Sportiva Automobilistica Italiana) wrote to the FIA President requesting to appeal the decision made by the World Motor Sport Council. Here is the text of the letter:

Dear President,

We have been informed about the outcome of the most recent meeting of the World Motor Sport Council held on July 26, 2007 in Paris. We have also exchanged views with our license holder, Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro (owned by Ferrari SpA).

We must confess that we find it quite difficult to justify how a team has not been penalised while it has been found in breach of clause 151c of the International Sporting Code. Indeed, this is probably the most fundamental provision of our sport. In the present case the infringement is very serious since it has been assessed that the team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has repeatedly breached such provision, over several months, through several top team representatives, to the detriment of its most direct competitor and therefore to its direct or indirect advantage and knowing that such infringement would still be ongoing would it had not been fortuitously discovered.

The very fact that the breach of clause 151c has been assessed by the World Motor Sport Council means that all conditions of such breach were fulfilled. We cannot see why additional conditions would have to be demonstrated in order for a penalty to be inflicted. The recent history of Formula One offers several examples of cases in which a party was inflicted a severe penalty because of a breach of clause 151c, without the subject matter of such breach having been used by a team or having had any effect on the outcome of the competition.

We fear that the decision of the World Motor Sport Council could create a precedent which, at this level of the sport and stage of the competition, would be highly inappropriate and detrimental for the sport.

In any event, in view of the aforesaid, we respectfully suggest that you, in your capacity as President of the FIA, in accordance with the powers granted to you by clause 23 paragraph 1 of the FIA Statutes and article 1 of the ICA rules, submit the matter to the International Court of Appeal of the FIA.

This would also enable our license holder, Ferrari, on behalf of which we would take part to the proceedings, and perhaps other teams as well, to fully submit their position and protect their rights. In effect, Ferrari - as at least two other teams - attended the World Motor Sport Council in Paris as observers and not as a party. Accordingly, they did not have a full right of audience. As, however, Ferrari in any event had been seriously and directly affected by McLaren's behaviour, we deem it appropriate that Ferrari (directly or through ourselves) enjoys full rights of due process which would be the case in accordance with the rules applicable in front of the International Court of Appeal.

Yours respectfully,

The President of ACI - CSAI
Luigi Macaluso

Copy to: Ferrari SpA, Maranello, Att Jean Todt, CEO

FIA President Max Mosley replied to the President of ACI - CSAI and granted a hearing of the case by the International Court of Appeal.

Here is the text of the letter:

Dear Mr Macaluso

Thank you for your letter of 30 July

If, as you suggest, it were clear that several of McLaren's top team representatives were aware of the Ferrari information over a period of several months, the situation would indeed be very serious.

Apart from using Ferrari's technical knowledge to give the McLaren cars an illegitimate advantage over the entire field, detailed knowledge of Ferrari's technical strategies would give McLaren significant and unfair advantages over Ferrari at every race.

However McLaren's case was that, except for a tip-off in March and a drawing shown briefly to a colleague as a historical curiosity, no one at McLaren knew of or had access to any of that information.

According to McLaren, it was acquired privately by a disgruntled employee who intended to leave. They inferred he never used Ferrari's information to help McLaren because it was part of his private database as technical director for another team.

There are a number of suspicious elements, all of which the World Motor Sport Council took into account when reaching its decision.

For example: the claim that the tip-off was the only information that passed in March; the failure to inform Ferrari of a spy when negotiating an agreement based on mutual trust; the installation of a "firewall" at McLaren to stop Stepney communicating, with no attempt at a similar block on Coughlan's private computers; McLaren's agreement to Coughlan travelling to Barcelona "to ask Stepney to stop communicating" rather than simply phone him; the fact that, far from ceasing communication, Coughlan returned from Barcelona with a vast quantity of Ferrari data; the failure to make clear what Coughlan was working on at McLaren while in possession of the data; Jonathan Neale's advice to Coughlan to destroy the documents, without knowing or wanting to know what they were and so on.

However, these suspicions did not amount to proof to the standard the Council felt was necessary in order to reject the evidence of McLaren's Team Principal and Managing Director and convict the team of an offence so grave as in all probability to warrant the exclusion from the Championship.

In the absence of unambiguous evidence that McLaren as a team had received and used the Ferrari information, the Council was left with McLaren's responsibility for its employee. Exclusion or withdrawal of points did not seem appropriate if it was really just a case of a rogue employee illegitimately acquiring information for his own purposes.

Your letter suggests that the outcome may have been different if the Council had given Ferrari further opportunities to be heard beyond those that were in fact offered.

Because of this and the importance of public confidence in the outcome, I will send this matter to the FIA Court of Appeal under article 23.1 of the FIA Statutes with a request that the Court hear both Ferrari and McLaren and any other Championship competitor who so requests and determine whether the decision of the WMSC was appropriate and, if not, substitute such other decision as may be just.

Yours sincerely,

Max Mosley.

cc: Mr Ron Dennis, Mr Jean Todt

McLaren then responded to the President of the ACI - CSAI by revealing details about the case.

Here is the text of the letter:

Dear Mr Macaluso,

ARTICLE 151C OF THE INTERNATIONAL SPORTING CODE

I refer to your letter dated 30 July 2007 to Mr Mosley of the FIA and to Mr Mosley's reply to you dated 31 July 2007, both of which were published on the FIA website yesterday without McLaren being given any opportunity at all to comment on this exchange of letters.

In your letter to the FIA you state that you "find it quite difficult to justify how a team has not been penalised while it has been found in breach of clause 151c of the International Sporting Code." As it is apparent from your letter that you have only heard Ferrari's version of events, I would like to set the record straight and to explain to you in some detail why it was entirely fair that McLaren was not penalised and why it would in fact also have been fair if McLaren had not been found to be in breach of Article 151c at all.

Since this matter first came to light, McLaren has been completely open with Ferrari and the FIA and has cooperated to the fullest extent in the investigation of the facts. At the hearing before the World Motor Sport Council, I and senior members of McLaren's staff gave evidence and were cross-examined by the Council and by Ferrari. We presented to the Council and to Ferrari all of McLaren's relevant documentary records for consideration. All of this evidence was fully tested at the hearing.

Our evidence makes it completely clear that the true facts of this matter are as follows:

"Whistleblowing" in March 2007

In March 2007, Mr Stepney of Ferrari contacted Mr Coughlan and informed him about two aspects of the Ferrari car which he regarded being in breach of FIA regulations. Specifically, he told Mr Coughlan about a floor attachment mechanism and a rear wing separator, both of which could be and were seen on the Ferrari car prior to the Australian Grand Prix.

Mr Coughlan immediately told McLaren's senior management about Mr Stepney's allegations. McLaren took steps to confirm whether the allegations were true, and we concluded that they were. Accordingly we reported these two matters to the FIA, adopting the customary practice of asking the FIA Technical Department for their opinion.

As regards the rear wing separator, the FIA subsequently ruled that this was compliant with the Technical Regulations. However the FIA ruled that this floor device was illegal. You will appreciate the significance of this.

As far as we are aware, Ferrari ran their cars with this illegal device at the Australian Grand Prix, which they won. In the interests of the sport, McLaren chose not to protest the result of the Australian Grand Prix even though it seems clear that Ferrari had an illegal competitive advantage.

Ferrari only withdrew the floor device after it was confirmed to be illegal by the FIA. Were it not for Mr Stepney drawing this illegal device to the attention of McLaren, and McLaren drawing it to the attention of the FIA, there is every reason to suppose that Ferrari would have continued to race with an illegal car.

In the press, Ferrari have described the information which Mr Stepney provided to Mr Coughlan in March 2007 as being Ferrari's "confidential information". This is completely misleading. There is nothing confidential about the rear wing separator, which is immediately visible on the exterior of the car.

As regards the floor device, Mr Stepney revealed that Ferrari was proposing to use an illegal device at the Australian Grand Prix and no doubt for the rest of the season. He acted properly and in the interests of the sport in "blowing the whistle" about this. No team can expect their employees to keep quiet if they suspect - correctly in this case - that their employers are breaching the rules of the sport.

Ferrari have also complained in the press that McLaren and I in particular should have disclosed to Ferrari that it was Mr Stepney who blew the whistle on their illegal floor device. They also criticise me for entering a gentlemen's agreement in April 2007 about how to conduct technical complaints without revealing that it was Mr Stepney who made the disclosures in March. For reasons which must be obvious to anyone fair minded, I reject these criticisms absolutely. I did not think it correct to disclose the name of the whistle-blower to Ferrari as it is not in the interests of Formula 1 for members of teams to feel that they cannot disclose instances of illegal activity without risking their name being disclosed to their employer. It is in the interests of Formula 1 that whistle-blowing is encouraged and not discouraged. If team members think that their identity will be revealed they will not whistle-blow.

What McLaren did do was to take steps immediately after learning of the contact between Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan in March 2007 to ensure that Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan ceased having any contact. Whilst we saw nothing wrong with Mr Stepney whistle-blowing on Ferrari's illegal activities, we felt that it was not helpful for him to choose Mr Coughlan to blow the whistle to. We did not feel comfortable with a disgruntled Mr Stepney being in contact with Mr Coughlan. For this reason in March 2007, immediately after the Australian Grand Prix, Mr Coughlan was instructed by his superior Mr Neale to cease contact with Mr Stepney.

In summary, faced with clear information that Ferrari was proposing to use an illegal device, McLaren acted entirely properly, indeed we acted with considerable restraint. If any criticism is to be made, then I suggest that you should reflect carefully on the conduct of your licence holder, Ferrari, which appears to have won the Australian Grand Prix by racing with an illegal device.

The "Ferrari Documents"

I turn now to the events which occurred later in the year between Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan and in particular to the provision of a "dossier" of Ferrari Documents by Mr Stepney to Mr Coughlan at a meeting in Barcelona on Saturday 28 April 2007. As I will explain, these events are quite separate from Mr Stepney's whistle blowing in March 2007, because during this period Mr Coughlan was acting secretly, in breach of his contract with McLaren, and for his own private purposes, quite conceivably as part of a scheme to leave McLaren and join another team together with Mr Stepney.

The background to the meeting on Saturday 28 April 2007 is that in early April 2007, Mr Coughlan told Mr Neale that despite his best efforts to cut off contact, Mr Stepney continued to contact him to express grievances about his lot with Ferrari. Mr Neale arranged for the installation of a "firewall" on McLaren's computer system to stop emails from Mr Stepney. In addition to this Mr Coughlan said to Mr Neale that the only way he thought that this would stop is if Mr Coughlan spoke to Mr Stepney face to face and told him to stop trying to contact him. Mr Neale agreed that he could do this outside working hours.

On Saturday 28th April 2007, Mr Coughlan went to Barcelona and met Mr Stepney. Only Mr Coughlan and Mr Stepney know what truly happened at that meeting. So far as McLaren was concerned, however, when Mr Coughlan returned to work, he told Mr Neale that his meeting with Mr Stepney had achieved its objective and he believed that Mr Stepney would not contact him again.

After this, no-one at McLaren heard anything more about contact between Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan until 3 July 2007. Everyone at McLaren assumed that the issue of Mr Stepney contacting Mr Coughlan to express grievances had been resolved.

On 3 July 2007, Ferrari executed a search order at Mr Coughlan's home and seized two CDs containing Ferrari Documents. I emphasise that these documents were found at Mr Coughlan's home. No Ferrari Documents were found at McLaren's offices.

As is now in the public domain, Mr Coughlan has admitted that Mr Stepney gave him a dossier of Ferrari Documents in Barcelona which he took for his own private reasons, he says "engineering curiosity". He kept these Documents at his home, and later with the assistance of his wife copied onto two CDs at a shop near their home, before shredding the originals using a home shredder and burning them in his back garden. Mr Coughlan says that he made no use of the Documents at work and that no one else at McLaren knew that he had taken the Documents.

Since Ferrari discovered that Mr Coughlan had the Ferrari Documents at his home, it has gone to extraordinary lengths to try to maximise the damage to McLaren, no doubt hoping to gain some advantage for the World Championship. In particular, Ferrari has alleged, without any justification, that other McLaren staff were aware of what Mr Coughlan had done and that McLaren made some use of the Documents. Ferrari has no evidence whatsoever for these offensive and false allegations and presented no such evidence to the World Motor Sports Council. The Council quite correctly rejected these allegations.

As regards Ferrari's allegation that other McLaren staff were aware of what Mr Coughlan had done, in its statements to the press, Ferrari has tried to confuse the March 2007 whistle-blowing by Mr Stepney (which McLaren did know about) with the events on and following 28 April 2007 (which Mr Coughlan kept completely secret). Let me make it clear: McLaren did know about the whistle blowing matters in March 2007 - indeed it reported these matters to the FIA. However that has nothing to do with what Mr Coughlan did on and after 28 April 2007. McLaren management and staff had no knowledge whatsoever about that.

In addition to this, Ferrari has tried to latch on to two instances where Mr Coughlan has stated that he showed single pages which he says were from the Ferrari Documents to two other McLaren staff: Mr Taylor (another McLaren engineer who had previously worked with Mr Coughlan when they were both at Ferrari) and Mr Neale (Mr Coughlan's superior). The Council has fully investigated these instances, and concluded quite rightly that neither Mr Taylor nor Mr Neale were aware that the single pages they were shown were Ferrari confidential information, still less that they were part of a dossier of several hundred pages which Mr Coughlan had secretly received and kept at his house.

So far as Mr Taylor is concerned, Mr Coughlan briefly showed him a single diagram. Mr Taylor had no idea whether this was an old or new diagram and had no idea it came from Mr Stepney. He was not given a copy and made no use of the diagram. He paid no attention to the incident.

As for Mr Neale, he had an informal meeting at a restaurant on 25 May 2007 to discuss a request Mr Coughlan had made for an early release from his contract of employment with McLaren.

Towards the end of this Mr Coughlan began to show Mr Neale two images, but Mr Neale stated that he was not interested in seeing them. Mr Neale has stated that these images did not appear to have any connection with Ferrari or any other team. When asked at the hearing about this, Mr Neale said that although this was only speculation on his part, he thought that Mr Coughlan was about to refer to the images to seek resources from him for digital mock up equipment.

In short these instances did not alert Mr Taylor or Mr Neale that Mr Coughlan had taken possession of the Ferrari Documents. Neither they or any other member of McLaren staff had any idea what Mr Coughlan had done.

I turn then to Ferrari's allegation that McLaren somehow made use of the Ferrari Documents which Mr Coughlan kept secretly at his home.

Mr Coughlan himself is categoric that he made no use of the Ferrari documents in the McLaren car. Mr Coughlan's job related to the management of drawing production by the design staff and their sign off prior to issue to our production facilities. He did not have responsibility for the performance enhancement of the car. This function lies with the Chief Engineers and R&D Team who report to the Engineering Director, Patrick Lowe, who provided detailed evidence to the World Motor Sport Council. An important part of Mr Coughlan's job was, however, monitoring the testing and reliability of the car throughout the year. In addition to this functional analysis, McLaren had conducted a very thorough physical and electronic search (conducted by Kroll) and a thorough engineering study conducted by Patrick Lowe to see if any of the Ferrari Documents were or are at McLaren or if any use of such documents has actually been made in relation to the McLaren car. This investigation has confirmed that none of the Ferrari Documents were at McLaren as opposed to at Mr Coughlan's home and that there is no possibility that any of the information in those Documents could have been used on any development on the McLaren car. At the hearing, McLaren demonstrated clearly to the satisfaction of the World Motor Sport Council that no use whatsoever has been made of any of the contents of the Ferrari documents in the McLaren car.

Accordingly, Ferrari's continued allegations in the press that McLaren has made use of the Ferrari Documents are entirely false.

I deal lastly with Mr Coughlan's true motives for taking and keeping the Ferrari Documents. Although McLaren cannot know for sure what Mr Coughlan's (and Mr Stepney's) motives were, what McLaren do know is that only a few days after the 28th April Mr Stepney contacted Honda (on 2 May) and commenced a process whereby Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan together offered their services to join Honda. McLaren believes that it is highly likely that Mr Stepney provided the Ferrari Documents to Mr Coughlan as part of a joint scheme to seek employment at another team.

These are the facts. Although McLaren does not know for sure what Mr Stepney's purpose was in passing the Ferrari Documents to Mr Coughlan and what Mr Coughlan's purpose was in receiving them, McLaren does know for sure that Mr Coughlan acted secretly and that the Ferrari Documents were not used in the McLaren car but that Mr Stepney and Mr Coughlan were looking to leaving Ferrari and McLaren to join another team. It is fact that Mr Coughlan never passed the Ferrari documents to anyone else at McLaren or told anyone at McLaren that he had these documents. It is fact that no-one at McLaren knew that Mr Coughlan had received any documents from Mr Stepney on the 28th April. It is fact that Mr Coughlan had been told by his superior Mr Neale to stop all contact with Mr Stepney straight after the Australian Grand Prix.

Other matters

Your letter also suggests that the outcome might have been different if the Council had given Ferrari further opportunities to be heard beyond those offered. I again ask you to look at the real facts, which are that Ferrari fully participated in the hearing before the Council.

First, Ferrari submitted a lengthy, albeit grossly misleading, memorandum dated 16th July 2007 along with supporting documents which together totalled 118 pages. Ferrari did not send McLaren the memorandum. The memorandum was circulated to the Council on the 20 July. McLaren did not see it until two days before the hearing and it was only then that we were able to correct its grossly inaccurate contents. In the meantime, the misleading Ferrari memorandum or sections of it appear to have been leaked to the Italian press as much of the Italian press reports echo elements of that memorandum.

In addition to this Ferrari, who were represented by lawyers, were given several opportunities by the FIA President to ask questions and make submissions throughout the hearing. Mr Todt also gave evidence. It was clear that the FIA President afforded Ferrari every opportunity to be heard in order to ensure that all relevant matters were heard by the WMSC. Indeed, at the very end of the proceeding, Ferrari intervened with a request to make further closing comments. Ferrari's request was permitted and their lawyer proceeded to make further detailed closing comments at some length.

I therefore simply do not understand what basis there is for Ferrari's claim that it was denied an opportunity to put its case. It put its case both in writing and orally.

I respectfully ask you and the ACI-CSAI to look at the hard facts of this matter in an objective and fair manner rather than being influenced by selective and misleading statements put out with the object of damaging McLaren. The reason McLaren was not penalised is that the World Motor Sport Council rightly concluded that it should not be blamed for Mr Coughlan's actions. It based its decision on solid facts and not false innuendo. McLaren's reputation has been unfairly sullied by incorrect press reports from Italy and grossly misleading statements from Ferrari.

This is a fantastic World Championship and it would be a tragedy if one of the best World Championships in years was derailed by the acts of one Ferrari and one McLaren employee acting for their own purposes wholly unconnected with Ferrari or McLaren. We believe that the Ferrari press releases, the leaks to the Italian press and recent events have been damaging to Formula 1 as well as McLaren. The World Championship should be contested on the track not in Courts or in the press.

We will naturally present our case before the FIA Court of Appeal as we strongly believe McLaren has done nothing wrong. It is our belief that justice will prevail and that McLaren will not be penalised.

Yours sincerely,

Ron Dennis CBE
Group Chairman and CEO

Copy:
Max Mosley, President FIA, Jean Todt, CEO Ferrari SpA