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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:15 pm
by K-D
julian mayo wrote:It is hardly conspiracy drivel if a driver that a lot of people want to see on the track is not permitted to be there because of his team mate. We, you me, and every body else is being cheated and ripped off. And as usual, it is ferrari doing it. I used to love the red cars.
Unless you have a public announcement it is nothing but the usual conspiracy drivel.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:20 pm
by Julian Mayo
YES I have an announcement. I don't like being ripped off. Is that plain enough for you

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:22 pm
by K-D
julian mayo wrote:YES I have an announcement. I don't like being ripped off. Is that plain enough for you

Rubens Barrichello was the only driver in the second session to stay inside. The Brazilian had technical problems with his Ferrari F2005
So it was the usual conspiracy drivel.
Get upset about the real issues and leave fiction behind you.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:23 pm
by Kapel
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:25 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:JayVee wrote:If that does happen, their ought to be NO Ferrari fans

It's usual conspiracy drivel. Get over it already.

Hey K-D don't be such a blind Michael supporter.
I said if that does happen.
Tell me
if (note the bold and underline

) Michael stacks his car and is given the other F2005 and Barrichello is given the F2004M what would be your position. I stress IF
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:28 pm
by K-D
Australia Friday practise 1
--
Albers
Freisacher
Alonso
Fisichella
Michael Schumacher
Kimi Raikkonen
Did not run
Australia Friday practise 2
--
Albers
Freisacher
Malaysia Friday practise 1
--
Trulli
Alonso
Fisichella
Did not run
Malaysia Friday practise 2
--
Webber
Did not run
Were you equally incensed at all these teams and drivers?? If not you are a hypocrite.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:30 pm
by JayVee
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:30 pm
by K-D
JayVee wrote:K-D wrote:JayVee wrote:If that does happen, their ought to be NO Ferrari fans

It's usual conspiracy drivel. Get over it already.

Hey K-D don't be such a blind Michael supporter.
I said if that does happen.
Tell me
if (note the bold and underline

) Michael stacks his car and is given the other F2005 and Barrichello is given the F2004M what would be your position. I stress IF
If that were to happen, my position would be that Ferrari would be doing Rubens a disservice, and they should give the driver that needs to change from the F2005 the F2004M.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:31 pm
by Julian Mayo
Why do you continue to defend the indefensible

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:33 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:
Australia Friday practise 2
--
Albers
Freisacher
Malaysia Friday practise 2
--
Webber
Did not run

Hey K-D, for starters 1st practise doesn't count
2nd practice in Melbourne, the Minardis weren't allowed to start
In Malaysia Webber has a fractured spare rib he wanted to save
In Bahrain Rubens ..... to be continued
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:35 pm
by K-D
julian mayo wrote:Why do you continue to defend the indefensible

I am not.
You are the one running with he usual conspiracy drivel.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:37 pm
by K-D
JayVee wrote:K-D wrote:
Australia Friday practise 2
--
Albers
Freisacher
Malaysia Friday practise 2
--
Webber
Did not run

Hey K-D, for starters 1st practise doesn't count
2nd practice in Melbourne, the Minardis weren't allowed to start
In Malaysia Webber has a fractured spare rib he wanted to save
In Bahrain Rubens ..... to be continued
I am stating all Friday practises before this weekend. Mark Webber had a probelm and did not run, Rubens had a problem and did not run.
An openminded person would either hvae no problems with either. Or be equally upset with both. Chosing only to be up set when it happens to be a specific Ferrari driver is the mark of a hypocrite.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:37 pm
by JayVee
K-D wrote:If that were to happen, my position would be that Ferrari would be doing Rubens a disservice, and they should give the driver that needs to change from the F2005 the F2004M.

Interesting, so you wouldn't be angry at them ? And at Michael for accepting such an unfair proposition
Also do you think morally Michael should accept that scenario ? Or should he stand up and say I'll take the F2004M

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:44 pm
by K-D
JayVee wrote:K-D wrote:If that were to happen, my position would be that Ferrari would be doing Rubens a disservice, and they should give the driver that needs to change from the F2005 the F2004M.

Interesting, so you wouldn't be angry at them ? And at Michael for accepting such an unfair proposition
Also do you think morally Michael should accept that scenario ? Or should he stand up and say I'll take the F2004M

Angry?? No.
Irritated ?? Absolutely.
You seem intent on giving my other motives than I have. As I wrote I think that the driver needing a new car, should race the F2004M. If you want to mesh my intent you need to ask some more specific questions.
I think that Ferrari should be carefull not fuelling the fire of "preference" that some many dislike. I think this to be the case early in the season, but were the same scenario to occur with 2/3rds of the season run I think that whoever is best placed in the WDC battle should have all resources made available to them.
The cincept of a clear and designated number 1 driver in my opinion is not a problem, and have been excuted by most championship winning teams the last 30 seasons.
I think that Michael Schumacher should refuse the car, if the case were to happen, and race the F2004M.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:48 pm
by JayVee
I've browsed a number of sites and some say a suspected problems and others say because they don't have a spare.
Let's see what Ferrari say
In any case, it isn't too good for Ferrari
BTW: Anyone noticed that blistering lap by Wurz ?
Alonso amazing especially looking at Fisichella's time.
I am surprised with de la Rosa actually. I thought he won't shape. Still too early.
Who cares about Michael guys, he is not going to shape. There are more exciting things to talk about
