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A surprise result but a well deserved win for Kubica and BMW Sauber on their first win. Congratulations
Good to see Heidfeld and Coulthard on the podium. Both drivers had poor results so far compared to their teammates so this should give them a boost.
Good result for Toyota with Glock in 4th and Trulli in 6th.
Massa suffers from having to stop three times when he should have only needed two but drove a good race to recover from last to 5th.
Honda would be pleased with Barrichello scoring 2 points and Toro Rosso would be happy with Vettel's point finish in 8th.

A major talking subject would be Hamilton crashing into Raikkonen at the exit of the pitlane. The incident will be investigated and Hamilton clearly made an error that has caused Raikkonen to retire. We may see Hamilton penalised for the next race. Rosberg was also involved in that incident as well.

Your thoughts and the driver of the day ?

Bravo Kubica and BMW!!!

Robert Kubica is the real deal (as I have been telling anyone who would listen for the past two years). What a fantastic result for a great team. I am especially happy for Nick Heidfeld who is perhaps the most responsible for the upswing in performance by the Swiss team. It was a perfect weekend for BMW-Sauber. Bravo!!!



Hats off to crusty old David Coulthard for a fantastic podium finish. Wile E. Coyote-- super genius! Great race and race strategy from the super fit, nearly 40-something Scot. Man, he is in great shape, the bastard!!!



It was a great day for Toyota bringing its two drivers home 4th and 6th. The little hiccup by Timo Glock should not cause any team friction after Jarno Trulli sees a replay of the incident. Timo's off just happened at a bad time for JT allowing Felipe Massa to pass for 5th.



It was a good day for old guys as Rubens Barrichelo came home in the points looking good all day in the Honda. The pressure is really on Jenson Button to do something now. The opportunities are dwindling.

Great drives for Sebastien Vettel, Fernando Alonso (before the gearbox gave up the ghost), Kazu Nakajima (before the wing/pitwall incident), and Felipe Massa (at the end of the race).

Lewis Hamilton looked like a winner before disaster struck. It makes no sense to me that a red light should be on at the end of the pit lane if the pit lane is "open." It was a stupid race management blunder that should be changed immediately.



Bob Varsha made a comment about Hambone brushing off Raikkonen after the incident, but I saw it a different way. Those two, no doubt, have been complaining about the rule which ended both of their respective days. For sure McLaren and Ferrari will be giving race control, Bernie Ecclestone, and anyone else who will listen an earful. No driver was at fault and the red light ruined a great drive by Nico Rosberg as well.



Less than stellar performances by Mark Webber, Nelsinho Piquet, and Heikki Kovalainen.



Overall, it was another superb Canadian Grand Prix which has become my second favorite race of the season. From its beginning, it has been the site of many driver's first victory. Aside from the drama of the track surface breaking up, Montreal is one of the finest venues on the calender.

Cheers everyone!!!

Hamilton was just really stupid for making that mistake. What a dumb driver, to not see the red light. That was effin stupid.

Kimi said it best: "There's a difference in making a mistake at 200 miles per hour, as opposed to making a mistake at a red light."

What an idiot Hamilton is.

Does he deserve the grid penalty for Magny Cours? Yes, and more. He should be stripped of any points he may get in France.

barre05 wrote:Hamilton was just really stupid for making that mistake. What a dumb driver, to not see the red light. That was effin stupid.

Kimi said it best: "There's a difference in making a mistake at 200 miles per hour, as opposed to making a mistake at a red light."

What an idiot Hamilton is.

Does he deserve the grid penalty for Magny Cours? Yes, and more. He should be stripped of any points he may get in France.

yes i do agree i also loved the way kimi handeld the acident by just pointing at the red light

Team by team summary following the race in Canada

BMW-SAUBER

An historic day for the Hinwil based marque, which took advantage of the Hamilton-Raikkonen pitlane carnage to secure its first win with a dominant one-two. "I have to be grateful to Lewis as he chose Kimi and not myself," debut winner Robert Kubica, who now leads the drivers' championship by four points, joked. Nick Heidfeld was less delighted, probably because - with a very heavy fuel load - he let Kubica pass him at one stage, despite possessing very good pace during the race. 'It is done!' the post-race statement proclaimed, referring to the team's pre-season goal of securing a victory in 2008.


RED BULL-RENAULT

David Coulthard shook off his disastrous start to the season by standing on the podium at the end of the eventful Canadian grand prix, but then admitted in the post-race press conference that he is in a "reflective" mood about his future. Mark Webber has been the point-man for RBR all year so far, but he had an off-colour run to a lowly 12th, worsened by his two-stop strategy that was hindered in traffic and the timing of the safety car.


TOYOTA

Timo Glock's unspectacular start to his Toyota career got a boost in Canada, where he has looked the measure of his teammate Jarno Trulli; he even led at one point after the safety car muddled up the order, and ultimately held off Felipe Massa's Ferrari for fourth at the flag. Trulli was also in the mix, but a slight error by Glock allowed Massa to slip past him and snatch fifth place as they raced in formation.


FERRARI

Kimi Raikkonen, whose fastest lap remained unchallenged at the chequered flag, was angry with Lewis Hamilton after their pitlane smash, which means he has dropped 7 points off the championship lead. Felipe Massa queued behind Raikkonen for service in the safety car period but no fuel went in, requiring another pitlane visit and limiting his run through the field to just fifth place.


HONDA

In the wake of the safety car shakeup, Rubens Barrichello was running fourth, but he was then passed on track by both Toyotas and Massa's Ferrari -- perhaps due in part to his struggle with a cold. "Yesterday I didn't know if I was going to be well enough to race," the veteran revealed. Jenson Button started the race from the pitlane following a gearbox change, and at the flag was in front of only Webber and Sebastien Bourdais.


TORO ROSSO-FERRARI

'From pitlane to a point', read STR's post-race press statement, documenting Sebastian Vettel's fortunes in the eventful Montreal race, notwithstanding a disrupted pitstop. Bourdais capped off his difficult weekend by finishing dead last. "This was the worst race ever for me, the worst weekend of my entire career. I have never experienced anything like it," said the Frenchman, who really struggled to deal with the crumbling track.


MCLAREN-MERCEDES

Lewis Hamilton's fall from grace in Canada was spectacular; after dominating the weekend, he failed to see a red light in pitlane and smashed into Raikkonen's Ferrari, wiping away his championship lead and incurring a ten-place penalty for Magny Cours in two weeks. Heikki Kovalainen's difficult weekend culminated in a lowly ninth-place finish. "A race to quickly forget," said Mercedes' Norbert Haug.


WILLIAMS-TOYOTA

Nico Rosberg's pace was a feature of the Montreal weekend, but - like Hamilton - he incurred the stewards' wrath on Sunday by ignoring the pitlane red light and crashing. He finished tenth, following a separate puncture. Kazuki Nakajima was high on the leaderboard after the safety car shakeup, but he damaged his front wing in a tag with Jenson Button and then crashed in the pitlane when it folded underneath his car.


FORCE INDIA-FERRARI

Adrian Sutil and Giancarlo Fisichella both failed to finish; Sutil with a gearbox problem on lap 13, which ultimately triggered the problematic safety car period, and Fisichella on lap 51 with a spin and stall.


RENAULT

The French team's two drivers were ostensibly in a strong position following the safety car, but Nelson Piquet went out with brake failure. Fernando Alonso was extremely scathing of the "terrible" decision to pit him during the safety car, which he thinks robbed him of contention for the podium. He retired from the race with a crash

rc89pl wrote:

What do you mean?

If they spin like that tomorrow it should be a fun race. (anyone keeping counts for Trulli?)

Let Trulli stay far away from Kubica. At least this time Robert is going from the front line, while Jarno is far behind.


I have some feeling that tomorrow Kubica will score his first GP in a first place.

I feel so delighted. I felt that Kubica will show that his last year's crush did nothing to him and only motivated him to drive better. As You can see in past few races, Kubica was the only driver to drive without any errors, while Hamilton, Kovalainen, Raikkonnen, Massa and Heidfeld are doing stupid mistakes, especially when it is raining.

I positively jinxed for Kubica. My prediction of scoring his first 1st place came true. I can't believe it.

rc89pl wrote:

rc89pl wrote:

What do you mean?

If they spin like that tomorrow it should be a fun race. (anyone keeping counts for Trulli?)

Let Trulli stay far away from Kubica. At least this time Robert is going from the front line, while Jarno is far behind.


I have some feeling that tomorrow Kubica will score his first GP in a first place.

I feel so delighted. I felt that Kubica will show that his last year's crush did nothing to him and only motivated him to drive better. As You can see in past few races, Kubica was the only driver to drive without any errors, while Hamilton, Kovalainen, Raikkonnen, Massa and Heidfeld are doing stupid mistakes, especially when it is raining.

I positively jinxed for Kubica. My prediction of scoring his first 1st place came true. I can't believe it.

You did indeed.........IIRC, I think I also said something about Kubica possibly winning today....all-in-all, it was an excellent drive from him and an excellent effort from BMW-Sauber; maybe its' just me, but I do believe there is a new player for top dawg' in the constructors' fight!

booklover wrote:

barre05 wrote:Hamilton was just really stupid for making that mistake. What a dumb driver, to not see the red light. That was effin stupid.

Kimi said it best: "There's a difference in making a mistake at 200 miles per hour, as opposed to making a mistake at a red light."

What an idiot Hamilton is.

Does he deserve the grid penalty for Magny Cours? Yes, and more. He should be stripped of any points he may get in France.

yes i do agree i also loved the way kimi handeld the acident by just pointing at the red light

yes, I love how Kimi was so cool headed even in his post-race comments. This is why I love the guy. He's just all about the driving.

Hamilton was the one who was pissed (i remember him pushing off the cameras in the pitlane and in the McLaren Pit Garage) after the whole affair, even if it was his stupidity that caused all of it.

Very interesting race. What a mistake by Hambone!!!
Congrats to Robert Kubica... a well deserved win.

RE30B#16 wrote:
Lewis Hamilton looked like a winner before disaster struck. It makes no sense to me that a red light should be on at the end of the pit lane if the pit lane is "open." It was a stupid race management blunder that should be changed immediately.



Bob Varsha made a comment about Hambone brushing off Raikkonen after the incident, but I saw it a different way. Those two, no doubt, have been complaining about the rule which ended both of their respective days. For sure McLaren and Ferrari will be giving race control, Bernie Ecclestone, and anyone else who will listen an earful. No driver was at fault and the red light ruined a great drive by Nico Rosberg as well.

Not a blunder by race control at all!
The light was red to stop cars from exiting the pit lane before the rest of the field had passed the pit exit, preventing the exiting cars from slotting into the wrong position in the line.
Same thing happened to Massa last year, who got a DSQ for not stopping.
This year the light was double the size and included an extra flashing light, so no excuses, Hamilton screwed up plain and simple.

I think the flashing thing was new. That is why Hamilton looked up and probably saw it in a time when the flash was switching to another one. But that is just another explanation why he did it.

My concern is, should Raikkonen be trying to park next to Kubica while exiting the Pit? You can see him trying to squeeze in front of Robert but lately he just parked next to him. If Hamilton wouldn't be there, Kimi would probably race Robert from the Pit, where was just one line to drive to the track.

I only wonder if Hamilton purposefully hit Kimi instead of Robert or was he trying to pass both cars and just avoid any accident. Was it fast enough to decide which car: BMW or Ferrari to hit?

GhoGho wrote:

RE30B#16 wrote:
Lewis Hamilton looked like a winner before disaster struck. It makes no sense to me that a red light should be on at the end of the pit lane if the pit lane is "open." It was a stupid race management blunder that should be changed immediately.



Bob Varsha made a comment about Hambone brushing off Raikkonen after the incident, but I saw it a different way. Those two, no doubt, have been complaining about the rule which ended both of their respective days. For sure McLaren and Ferrari will be giving race control, Bernie Ecclestone, and anyone else who will listen an earful. No driver was at fault and the red light ruined a great drive by Nico Rosberg as well.

Not a blunder by race control at all!
The light was red to stop cars from exiting the pit lane before the rest of the field had passed the pit exit, preventing the exiting cars from slotting into the wrong position in the line.
Same thing happened to Massa last year, who got a DSQ for not stopping.
This year the light was double the size and included an extra flashing light, so no excuses, Hamilton screwed up plain and simple.

It was a stupid mistake by Hamilton and even he admitted it. Don't making excuses for the guy when he himself said that "he saw the light but couldn't stop in time".

Good race to watch due to the unpredictable nature of it. Kubica gets my driver of the day vote. Good drive also from Heidfeld.

I agree with the penalty handed to Hamilton for the next race. There is no excuse ever for going through a red light and the fact that he took another driver out made it worse.

rc89pl wrote:I think the flashing thing was new. That is why Hamilton looked up and probably saw it in a time when the flash was switching to another one. But that is just another explanation why he did it.

My concern is, should Raikkonen be trying to park next to Kubica while exiting the Pit? You can see him trying to squeeze in front of Robert but lately he just parked next to him. If Hamilton wouldn't be there, Kimi would probably race Robert from the Pit, where was just one line to drive to the track.

I only wonder if Hamilton purposefully hit Kimi instead of Robert or was he trying to pass both cars and just avoid any accident. Was it fast enough to decide which car: BMW or Ferrari to hit?

The flashing light was new, but it was an additional light to one constantly lit one, so no excuse for not seeing it.

I honestly don't believe he had time to decide which car to hit, but that he just swerved to try to avoid the collision.
Now had it been Michael Schumacher, everyone would have been jumping up and down crying foul and saying that he deliberately chose one car over the other.

First of all, congratulations to Kubica on winning his first race. At this rate he could well win the championship due to the silly mishaps of the Ferrari and McLaren teams just like Raikkonen won it last year.

Second, please Alonso take it easy. Yes I can see you are trying to grab any opportunity that may come your way and they are far and few but you are taking too many risks. You had a stunning qualifying and could have finished with some good points or even a podium. Relax a bit please!

Finally, to the great Hamilton. You are having a very big head.
Apologise for not stopping and crashing into Raikkonen. Accept the penalty and move on. You were wrong, very wrong and your silly comments won't make anything you did right.

Your team told you to watch for the red light and you didn't listen, all of a sudden you saw two cars in front of you, you swerved but crashed into one.

Don't come back and claim the rules are silly. This red light has caught Montoya and Massa in the past so you should have known better.

Had there not been those two cars, you would have run the red light and been black flagged (just like Massa and Montoya). Unlucky for you, you also destroyed Raikkonen's race where he could have won so for that action you deserve to be penalised and 10 places on the grid is fair although it should have been 20 so you don't get a chance to score points.

Funny how James Allen or Martin Brundle didn't hint at the possiblity that Hamilton crashed into Raikkonen and avoided Kubica as he is his biggest threat. (or at least he thinks so!!)

Had it been Alonso (sorry Alonso I know you don't do such silly mistakes), what would James Allen said ?
There is no doubt in my mind that James and all the British media would have accused Alonso of deliberatly crashing into Hamilton.
Just like they claimed Alonso brake tested Hamilton earlier this year.

So I don't mind entertaining the theory that Hamilton deliberatly crashed into Raikkonen. The British have to taste their own.

One last point, I was impressed by Massa too

On a lighter note ..... Raikkonen crashed into Sutil in Monaco ... Sutil retires from a point scoring position
Hamilton crashed into Raikkonen in Canada
.... due to the safety car
........ a safety car which was deployed due to Sutil's car failure .... Raikkonen retires from a possible winning position!!

One wonders.....