The Ferrari investigation (McLaren issues apology)

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:15 pm

Alonso admitting in passing on some electronic exchanges to FIA

All in the name of sport n sportsmanship...

Cant v do this after the season is over!!!!

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:13 am

Seems "Stepney-Gate" keeps widening out ever more........

I haven't been following the above much, so bear with me on this one........IIRC, this all started with one disgruntled Ferrari engineer, Nigel Stepney, allegedly passing classified Ferrari data(over 700+ pages if I'm not mistaken) to McLaren chief engineer Mike Coughlin(who might've gotten away with the data had there not been an attempt to photocopy the data near McLaren HQ.....).....then it widened out to include Honda(how is beyond me, Honda has enough problems of their own; they don't need more.......

) and now McLaren's drivers(Alonso, Hamilton, de la Rosa) have been enveloped in this saga as well......

The last part's the most intriguing....I can understand de la Rosa being involved(as the team's lead test driver, he could be in a spot to understand how to turn Ferrari data into McLaren-usable info for testing and other purposes); I can vaguely understand Alonso being involved(as McLaren's lead race driver, he would potentially be in a position to use de la Rosa's testing info for McLaren's benefit during race weekends); I can't see how Hamilton's involved, so I give Hamilton the benefit of the doubt on this one. Maybe I'm wrong here, but given what information is available(and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this), it sounds as though the FIA is trying to get Alonso to "flip" on de la Rosa and testify against de la Rosa as to what information they may or may not know.....then once that's done, try to get de la Rosa to "roll" on Coughlin and Stepney.

All-in-all, that WMSC hearing set for this week should be a very, very interesting hearing.

Ed · Post by Ed » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:30 pm

The WMSC hearing is still ongoing and it is taking longer than expected.

Information at this stage indicates that all three McLaren drivers declared they did not use or know about the Ferrari information that Coughlan had.

Stay tuned

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:25 am

Hmmmm

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:29 am

Cousin Bernice, who is staying on the Left Bank, reckons McLaren are outed for this year n next

God help Mad Max if this is true, cos no-one else will

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:41 am

Julian Mayo wrote:Cousin Bernice, who is staying on the Left Bank, reckons McLaren are outed for this year n next

God help Mad Max if this is true, cos no-one else will

Im hearing some of the same rumors, Julian.......problem at the moment is finding accurate information; for instance, autosport ran a headline saying that McLaren had been expelled from the championship for 2007 and 2008, then turned around and said that those reports were premature.....

Currently, what everyone seems to be saying is that McLaren will be punished for Stepney-Gate.........but right now, if they've decided on what that punishment is, nobody's talking yet.......

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:06 am

mlittle wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Cousin Bernice, who is staying on the Left Bank, reckons McLaren are outed for this year n next

God help Mad Max if this is true, cos no-one else will
Im hearing some of the same rumors, Julian.......problem at the moment is finding accurate information; for instance, autosport ran a headline saying that McLaren had been expelled from the championship for 2007 and 2008, then turned around and said that those reports were premature.....

Currently, what everyone seems to be saying is that McLaren will be punished for Stepney-Gate.........but right now, if they've decided on what that punishment is, nobody's talking yet.......

Cousin Bernice will ring back within the hour.
What worries me is that none of the British E sites are reachable......are they all madly typing "Stop Press" Leaders

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:12 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
mlittle wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Cousin Bernice, who is staying on the Left Bank, reckons McLaren are outed for this year n next

God help Mad Max if this is true, cos no-one else will
Im hearing some of the same rumors, Julian.......problem at the moment is finding accurate information; for instance, autosport ran a headline saying that McLaren had been expelled from the championship for 2007 and 2008, then turned around and said that those reports were premature.....

Currently, what everyone seems to be saying is that McLaren will be punished for Stepney-Gate.........but right now, if they've decided on what that punishment is, nobody's talking yet.......
Cousin Bernice will ring back within the hour.
What worries me is that none of the British E sites are reachable......are they all madly typing "Stop Press" Leaders

Speed Channel's website(speedtv.com) has this on their site................
BREAKING NEWS: McLaren Faces Exclusion

In addition, autoracing1.com has the following item posted at the top of their news section............."FIA hammers McLaren: Expelled for 2007 and 2008......"

Sounds like heads are rolling in the WMSC hearing........

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:31 am

mlittle wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
mlittle wrote:
Im hearing some of the same rumors, Julian.......problem at the moment is finding accurate information; for instance, autosport ran a headline saying that McLaren had been expelled from the championship for 2007 and 2008, then turned around and said that those reports were premature.....

Currently, what everyone seems to be saying is that McLaren will be punished for Stepney-Gate.........but right now, if they've decided on what that punishment is, nobody's talking yet.......
Cousin Bernice will ring back within the hour.
What worries me is that none of the British E sites are reachable......are they all madly typing "Stop Press" Leaders
Speed Channel's website(speedtv.com) has this on their site................
BREAKING NEWS: McLaren Faces Exclusion

In addition, autoracing1.com has the following item posted at the top of their news section............."FIA hammers McLaren: Expelled for 2007 and 2008......"

Sounds like heads are rolling in the WMSC hearing........

yeah, but nothing is confirmed, If the security guys don't spot the satellite dish on Cousin Bernice's tea trolley, we are in with a chance.........n given CB's figure, its a good chance

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:32 am

Bugga......just gave away my main source's job

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:36 am

The servers for most north atlantic sites are crashing

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:40 am

Julian Mayo wrote:The servers for most north atlantic sites are crashing

Speed's is up, so is autoracing1.com's........the problem on this side of the Atlantic is trying to access autosport and other F1 news sites(most are taking forever to come up or, after a while the screen says, "Internet Explorer Can't Access This Page."

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:44 am

mlittle wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:The servers for most north atlantic sites are crashing
Speed's is up, so is autoracing1.com's........the problem on this side of the Atlantic is trying to access autosport and other F1 news sites(most are taking forever to come up or, after a while the screen says, "Internet Explorer Can't Access This Page."

Yup, they are overloaded

All the non Motor racing Journos are looking for a lead story

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:45 am

If McLaren is outed, God help Mad Max if Snowy gets within twenty feet of him

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:48 am

Julian Mayo wrote:If McLaren is outed, God help Mad Max if Snowy gets within twenty feet of him