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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:46 pm
by Understudy
Kimi has always been Ferrari's number 1 imo, Raikonnen has shown time and time again that he can make an average car competitive, I couldn't see Raikonnen winning as the car just wasn't quick enough through the twisty stuff, i knew that if he'd gotten in front of heidfeld at the start he would of ended the race in second barring technical problems. The circuit is just too hard to pass on.
Ferrari weren't very strong at all in qualifying and Massa himself was no better, they can't blame his low qualifying on that refuelling incident as it happened with well over 5 Minutes left in the session. He was just plain slow in qualifying and no better in the race. Kimi managed to throw it around quickly (well quick enough) so why couldn't Massa? Blame it on the setup if he likes but in the end he's the one that decides how he wants it set up. So again in my eyes that's his fault. He managed to throw it around quickly in the morning so what happened in qualifying?
(did we ever actually find out what was "wrong" with Massa's car in qualifying or not?)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:53 am
by gkaytaz
F1greyhound wrote:Ok, LEWIS didnt obey to team orders but I think he didnt hinder FERNANDO in any way by pulling away in Q3...he is a full blooded racer and I think he would deserve to become the first driver to become Champion in his maiden season. FERNANDO is surprisingly bad at handling a quick team mate, MICHAEL could live much better with pressure..
Hamilton has yet to convince me about his racing ability. So far he managed to stay up front whenever he started there. McLaren is very quick and reliable, which makes that accomplishment not a huge surprise. Besides they have been preparing Hamilton for a long time now. He should be able to deliver and that much he does. However when he started from 10th he only managed to get up to 9th due to some stupid errors on his part. He's a rookie, a quick one at that but no way great yet. Whenever he loses 10 grid spaces and manages to get them all back without the aid of the SC then he'll start the road down to greatness.
That's how I see Hamilton at this time.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:54 am
by gkaytaz
Understudy wrote:Kimi has always been Ferrari's number 1 imo, Raikonnen has shown time and time again that he can make an average car competitive, I couldn't see Raikonnen winning as the car just wasn't quick enough through the twisty stuff, i knew that if he'd gotten in front of heidfeld at the start he would of ended the race in second barring technical problems. The circuit is just too hard to pass on.
Ferrari weren't very strong at all in qualifying and Massa himself was no better, they can't blame his low qualifying on that refuelling incident as it happened with well over 5 Minutes left in the session. He was just plain slow in qualifying and no better in the race. Kimi managed to throw it around quickly (well quick enough) so why couldn't Massa? Blame it on the setup if he likes but in the end he's the one that decides how he wants it set up. So again in my eyes that's his fault. He managed to throw it around quickly in the morning so what happened in qualifying?
(did we ever actually find out what was "wrong" with Massa's car in qualifying or not?)
Supposedly Istanbul Park will fit the Ferraris better. The same was said for Canada and US though... I wish the break wasn't three whole weeks. It's just too long a wait.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:55 am
by gkaytaz
JayVee wrote:We'll see but I am now starting to beleive that Alonso will not stay at McLaren for much longer. They can enjoy their Hamilton
Talks about Alonso going back to Renault.

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:52 am
by McLarenLvr
gkaytaz wrote:JayVee wrote:We'll see but I am now starting to beleive that Alonso will not stay at McLaren for much longer. They can enjoy their Hamilton
Talks about Alonso going back to Renault.
If Alo goes back to Renault, Ron Dennis should retire, give his share of the company to his oldest employees and go to NASCAR to cause trouble.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:31 am
by Julian Mayo
McLarenLvr wrote:gkaytaz wrote:JayVee wrote:We'll see but I am now starting to beleive that Alonso will not stay at McLaren for much longer. They can enjoy their Hamilton
Talks about Alonso going back to Renault.
If Alo goes back to Renault, Ron Dennis should retire, give his share of the company to his oldest employees and go to NASCAR to cause trouble.
That would be who ?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:44 am
by Snowy
Some interesting comments . . . I personally enjoyed the race and the result a great deal

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:47 am
by Julian Mayo
"Caution.....Tall Poppy Loppers at work"

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:01 am
by McLarenLvr
Julian Mayo wrote:McLarenLvr wrote:gkaytaz wrote:
Talks about Alonso going back to Renault.
If Alo goes back to Renault, Ron Dennis should retire, give his share of the company to his oldest employees and go to NASCAR to cause trouble.
That would be who ?
Who?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:11 am
by Julian Mayo
The oldest employees..........

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:29 am
by McLarenLvr
Whoever was there when Ron Dennis came in and took over McLaren..... you probably know who that is. I know I do

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:40 am
by Julian Mayo
McLarenLvr wrote:Whoever was there when Ron Dennis came in and took over McLaren..... you probably know who that is. I know I do

Teddy
Ralph
Phil
Tyler
Alastair
Gordon
Don't know who the oldest are tho,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:44 am
by McLarenLvr
Can you name who on that list is still there?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:49 am
by Julian Mayo
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:51 am
by McLarenLvr
Tyler