The 2006 Turkish Grand Prix

Discuss all the aspects of the Formula 1 sport here

Moderators: cmlean, Ed, The Qualiflyer, The Heretic

Driver of the day ?

Felipe Massa
10
50%
Fernando Alonso
10
50%
Michael Schumacher
0
No votes
Jenson Button
0
No votes
Pedro de la Rosa
0
No votes
Pedro de la Rosa
0
No votes
Giancarlo Fisichella
0
No votes
Ralf Schumacher
0
No votes
Rubens Barrichello
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 20

Snowy
F1 Race Winner
F1 Race Winner
Posts: 2094
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:28 am
Location: location, location

Post by Snowy » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:24 am

F1greyhound wrote:Dont wind me up :lol:

My ideas about weight on the top 10:

FELIPE light 14 laps (3stops)
MICHAEL heavy 19 laps (2)
FERNANDO light 14 3
FISICO light 14 3
NICK light 14 3
JENSON heavy 19 2
KIMI full 28 1
ROBERT heavy 19 2
MARK full 28 1
CHRISTIAN heavy 19 2
Interesting... I suspect Jenson is about the same as Alonso though and Michael is pretty heavy (22 laps is my guess), because he made a mistake on his first run he was overly cautious on his second. Tyre wear might well be a factor. Alonso deliberately provoked graining yesterday so they could adjust setup accordingly. Ferrari are very fast indeed so their rubber might be marginal. If it does last then Schuey is gonna win the world title barring any technical mishaps. Michelin will never close that gap and Renault will not recover from their mass ive blow from the FIA(Ferrari International Alliance) :roll:
Lewis Hamilton & Jenson Button World Champions :)

gkaytaz
F1 Race Winner
F1 Race Winner
Posts: 3557
Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:18 am
Location: Revelstone

Post by gkaytaz » Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:24 am

I just came back from quali and some drinking... My "in-situ" impressions:
Massa is probably very light. Still he was darn fast.
Alonso failed to impress during the first round. But in the end he came out okay.
Schumi has huge support in Turkey. His second round was extraordinary.
Button was flying in round 2. Made one tiny mistake in R3 which cost him the pole.
Raikkonen will probably pit later than all the drivers in the top 10 save maybe Webber.
Klien was another big surprise. He was fast. Apparently not fast enough but if he keeps up the same tempo he will score some points for sure. Maybe he's trying to punish the RBR administration who cast him out.
Trulli: Trully disappointing :)
DC: Beaten by a Midland... Nuff said.

BTW I could sneak in before the Sat practice. Speed was around. That guy is a loudmouth :) Liuzzi wouldn't talk much. There was quite a bit of talk about some rpm limitation that I caught midway through the discussion (thus didn't get the whole picture). Issue between V8s and rpm limited V10s I guess. Speaking of pictures they wouldn't let unauthorized folks taking pics :P One guy even tried to confiscate my camera. What's up with all the paranoia?
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams (1952-2001)

Julian Mayo
Forum Hall of Fame
Forum Hall of Fame
Posts: 15661
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.

Post by Julian Mayo » Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:58 am

Snowy wrote:The wabbits have excellent night vision :shock: I bought night goggles from an Iraqi for just such an eventuality :twisted:
Tis just that I twitch in my sleep, like other dogs.......(now, how to get on topic?.....Ahah) while I have nightmares about what will happen to Webbo's car at this GP.
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:09 am

I suspect most will be on two stops. It is just the timing.

Most will pit around lap 15 to 20. Michael I suspect is the heaviest of the two stoppers and will be the last to pit.

Raikkonen and Webber could be on single stop and they may be the heaviest.

The engine situation for Toyota seems to worsen! Ralf and Albers will be penalised 10 places for changing engines!

Julian Mayo
Forum Hall of Fame
Forum Hall of Fame
Posts: 15661
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:07 am
Location: Tying the antenna to the tallest tree I can find.

Post by Julian Mayo » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:52 am

If that cobbled together Williams lasts, Webbo could get into the points. Alonso will 2 stop, not 3. 8)
The Mountain is a savage Mistress.

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:52 am

gkaytaz wrote:Speaking of pictures they wouldn't let unauthorized folks taking pics :P One guy even tried to confiscate my camera. What's up with all the paranoia?
They are very strict in the pit areas especially if you get inside the garages!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:08 am

Selected quotes following qualifying:

Felipe Massa - Pole
A fantastic day for me and to get my first F1 pole is an emotional moment. I can look back and think how much I have had to fight to achieve this. I am emotional and happy and hope to get many more poles in my career. I want to thank the team for having given me a fantastic car, but thank you also to my father: without him I would probably not be here in Formula 1. Tomorrow I will drive my race thinking about mine and the team?s objectives in both championships. We know we have a great package while the Bridgestone tyres are consistent and perform well over a long run.
Michael Schumacher - 2nd
Getting myself on the front row is definitely not something I can complain about, but today I definitely did not deliver a great qualifying performance, failing to get all the potential out of the car. I aborted my first run on new tyres in Q3 after I ran wide at Turn 1 and I also made a mistake on my second run when in any case, I took a slightly more cautious approach to the lap, knowing I only had one set of tyres left and that it would be better to be second or third rather than not managing to do a reasonable time. It?s better to be safe than sorry. I am very happy for Felipe on getting the first pole of his career. He drove an exceptional lap and I have to say I don?t think I could have beaten him, even if I had not made any mistakes. We can be optimistic about the race as, from what we have seen so far, everything is in place for us to do well.
Fernando Alonso - 3rd
Third position was a good result for me today. We knew that we would not have enough to beat the Ferrari package over one timed lap, but we do believe in the consistency of the Michelin tyres and what they can bring us in the race. Our preparations have been focused on the race since yesterday morning, so it is a good result for us to be high up in qualifying. I think it will be an exciting start to the race and that we will see a group of cars running together in the opening laps. But we also know that the most important thing tomorrow will be to finish, to bring home points in both championships.
Giancarlo Fisichella - 4th
We knew all weekend that Ferrari would be quick, and that it would be a tough battle to get on to the front row, but we are in the next best position. The car felt much better today on the other type of Michelin tyre, it was easy to drive and the performance was consistent on longer runs. We know that it will be a tough race tomorrow, but we will be fighting all the way.
Nick Heidfeld - 6th (starts 5th)
I am a little bit surprised that everything went so well. Our performance in Hungary was, in my opinion, due to exceptional circumstances. If we compare today?s result to the races prior to then the improvement is an enormous step forward. It shows the guys in Munich and Hinwil worked really well during the summer break, and here we have some more aerodynamic improvements including a modified front wing. Nevertheless I am realistic and think it is going to be harder for us in the race, but our goals are points.
Jenson Button - 7th (starts 6th)
I was obviously hoping for something more from qualifying today, although we have been struggling a little bit in the last sector here - on the long straight and the three very slow corners at the end. That's where we have been losing out to Alonso. On the positive side we have been looking good on the long runs, as we demonstrated on Friday and this morning. So it's looking like we could be better off in the race, in which case P6 on the grid isn't so bad
Kimi Raikkonen - 8th (starts 7th)
The times are very close today so even a small improvement could have made a big difference in where we qualified. I think we had expected to be slightly higher up, but I will move one place on the grid to seventh, and as we have seen many times before anything is possible. The car is handling quite well, and you never know what strategy the others are using, so all we can do now is to wait for the race tomorrow.
Robert Kubica - 9th (starts 8th)
It was a good qualifying as we have both cars in the top ten. We struggled with the set up this morning and had understeer, but suddenly in qualifying it became oversteer. It went from one side to the other and unfortunately the car was really difficult to drive. However, I managed pretty well to push on one lap and I shall see what happens tomorrow. The conditions are changing and we should have more rubber on the track, which should help to make the rear more stable.
Jean Todt - Ferrari
A great qualifying for Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro who will occupy the whole front row of the grid tomorrow afternoon. I am very happy for Felipe for his first ever pole position. Our package, with the support of exceptional partners like Bridgestone and Shell once again showed itself to be very competitive today. Taking into account the consistency of the performance of the tyres in race trim, there is every indication we can do well tomorrow. As usual, to have a clear picture of the situation we need to clear up the usual unknowns of strategy and how the tyres will react as the track gets more and more rubber down, without forgetting crucial factors like reliability. The answers to these questions will have to wait until tomorrow afternoon.
Pat Symonds - Renault
Things went pretty much to plan for us. We chose to switch to the other specification of tyre after our problems yesterday, and that has undoubtedly been confirmed as the correct decision. Making that change gave the car a good, driveable balance that we managed to fine tune during practice this morning, while our running on older tyres confirmed that the tyres will be consistent in tomorrow's race. Ferrari have been very quick all weekend, and certainly were in qualifying as well. I think they seem to have an advantage on the first lap, but we have seen the balance of power switch overnight already this season. Starting from the second row, we are in the right position to race them hard for the win.
Mario Theissen - BMW Sauber
That was the best qualifying result our young team has achieved so far. Tomorrow we presume we will start from fifth and eighth, which is an excellent position to be in for the race. In all three sections of qualifying Nick?s performance was very strong, and Robert, in only his second qualifying, did an impressive job.
Gil de Ferran - Honda
We certainly would have preferred to be a bit further up. In the case of Rubens we just couldn't get the balance to his liking on new tyres. Jenson did a great job in Q2, but we haven't been particularly fast in the last sector all weekend and unfortunately that cost Jenson a few places on the grid. However, both cars have been very competitive and consistent on long runs and used tyres, which bodes well for the race.
Ron Dennis - McLaren
We have a good race strategy which should give both drivers every opportunity to achieve strong finishing positions in the race tomorrow. Kimi and Pedro are both pleased with the handling of their cars, so we look forward to a competitive Turkish Grand Prix.
Sam Michael - Williams
In relation to qualifying, Mark did a good job to get the car into the top ten and Nico made it into Q2. Tyres tomorrow will play a big part in the race, so we will work hard on the remaining parts of our strategy tonight and look to score some points. We had no problems today in terms of the car, all the systems functioned well.
Christian Honer - Red Bull
It was unfortunate for David to be delayed by Sato who went off in front of him at Turn eight. He was looking as if he would have comfortably made the cut to the second session. Christian optimised his car's set up and did a good job. He was unfortunate to narrowly miss out on getting through to the final session. We are now in a position to pick our strategy for tomorrow and will be pushing hard for points finishes.
Pascal Vasselon - Toyota
In terms of our grid position for tomorrow that is obviously one of our lowest results of the season but we understand the reasons for that. We changed Ralf's engine as a precaution yesterday evening, preferring to accept the ten-place penalty rather than risk a failure this weekend. So that meant we had to adapt his strategy accordingly. He did well to go fifth quickest in Q3 but he will start 15th tomorrow. We have a different strategy for Jarno, who had a different day. He struggled for grip, and that is why he missed out on the top ten. Still, this is a circuit where we can hope to make up ground in the race. We knew that this would be a hard track for tyres but it is clear that the Bridgestone tyres we have are well suited to its demands. We will be starting lower down the grid than we expected but we remain confident that our strategy can bring both cars home in the points tomorrow.
Dominic Harlow - MF1 Racing
At the start of the qualifying session, we found that the increased track and ambient temperatures had caused the circuit to drop off a little bit, with a little bit more oversteer on the early runs. I don't think the starting grid will necessarily reflect the true pace of our cars. We just kept looking more and more competitive as the day progressed, particularly Christijan in the second session. Our programme this morning indicates that we've got good tyres for the race, and we think it's going to bode well for a strong performance tomorrow. We're looking forward to it.
Aguri Suzuki - Super Aguri
The complete version of the SA06 is showing potential but we have not had enough time to set-up the car and you can see this from our Qualifying times today. Takuma was progressing well in the car this morning, but unfortunately experienced a significant chassis problem during the Qualifying session. Sakon has done a consistently good job and made no mistakes so far this weekend. He has been improving with every session and I hope that he will be able to finish the race tomorrow.

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:42 pm

Race starts in 20 minutes. It is sunny and warm in Istanbul!

Air temperature is 36 while track temperature is 53 degrees!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:51 pm

Felipe Massa starts from Pole for the first time in his career with Michael Schumacher alongside him.
Fernando Alonso and Giancarlo Fisichella share the second row.
Nick Heidfeld starts from 5th on the grid following the penalty for Ralf Schumacher who was 5th fastest in qualifying. Jenson Button share the 3rd row with Heidfeld.
Kimi Raikkonen and Robert Kubica share the 4th row.

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:59 pm

The grid is cleared and the cars are waiting to start their formation lap!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:01 pm

Formation lap underway. All the cars get away cleanly!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:01 pm

Massa arrives back at the starting grid.

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:02 pm

Lights!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:03 pm

Alonso gets a great start but has to back off! Fisichella spins at the first turn and a few cars have been damaged. No retirements though!

Ed
NewsOnF1 Editor
NewsOnF1 Editor
Posts: 22255
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:24 pm

Post by Ed » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:05 pm

Fisichella, Ralf Schumacher, Heidfeld, Speed all pit for repairs!

Raikkonen has damaged tyre!

Post Reply