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GhoGho wrote:

Andre_Brasil wrote:And, as always, The 2nd driver has to open space for His Majesty MS... what happened between Massa and MS at the first lap WAS A SHAME!!!

FM was actually blocked by the Midland cars almost taking each other out while MS was in the relatively clear pit exit lane. This gave MS a good run at FM who had to back off to avoid a colision with the midland cars which allowed MS to get past.

Well, I'm getting older... must check my glasses prescription!

Thanks Julian, GhoGho, F-1 NUT

Fair to say MICHAEL is no saint(not sure anyone else is..), he has the greatest will to win one can imagine. I see it as moving close to the edge...

CHEERS!

F1greyhound wrote:Thanks Julian, GhoGho, F-1 NUT

Fair to say MICHAEL is no saint(not sure anyone else is..), he has the greatest will to win one can imagine. I see it as moving close to the edge...

CHEERS!

Alan Jones had the greatest will to win, Senna same, J Stewart..same.....Jim Clark....same....Fangio probably more than anyone. MS is not only over the edge he is halfway down the vertical drop.
None of those guys woulld have tipped Hill off the way MS did.
Geeez last year MS took out MW who was about to lap him.
IMHO the guy has a pathological dread of being beaten, regardless of where he is in the pack.

Andre_Brasil wrote:

GhoGho wrote:

Andre_Brasil wrote:And, as always, The 2nd driver has to open space for His Majesty MS... what happened between Massa and MS at the first lap WAS A SHAME!!!

FM was actually blocked by the Midland cars almost taking each other out while MS was in the relatively clear pit exit lane. This gave MS a good run at FM who had to back off to avoid a colision with the midland cars which allowed MS to get past.

Well, I'm getting older... must check my glasses prescription!

Be sure not to get the ones with the yellow and blue tint......

Jeez Julian,

there have been quite a few good passes on MICHAEL where he didnt shoot the other guy off. I remember interviews with DAMON and MIKA praising him as a hard but fair competitor. And himself has every time a good word for his opposition, maybe more so than anyone else. AYRTON was at least as hard and as far as I can remember he took defeat worse, plus I can hardly remember anything positive from him about his competitors or teammates. Im also missing conspiracies about GERHARD driving as a clear No.2 just for him.

Dont things from the past always appear in a brighter light?

GhoGho wrote:

Andre_Brasil wrote:

GhoGho wrote:
FM was actually blocked by the Midland cars almost taking each other out while MS was in the relatively clear pit exit lane. This gave MS a good run at FM who had to back off to avoid a colision with the midland cars which allowed MS to get past.

Well, I'm getting older... must check my glasses prescription!

Be sure not to get the ones with the yellow and blue tint......

Yesterday night I saw the overtaking manouvre again... on the outside between Casino and Mirabeau!!!

Gee... MS is a genius!

Andre_Brasil wrote:
Gee... MS is a genius!

Except for the fact that he didnt damage the car when he stopped in qualifying, then it would just have been classified as a racing incident and not a foul.

Bring on the football

F1greyhound wrote:AYRTON was at least as hard and as far as I can remember he took defeat worse, plus I can hardly remember anything positive from him about his competitors or teammates. Im also missing conspiracies about GERHARD driving as a clear No.2 just for him.

Dont things from the past always appear in a brighter light?

Not your memory of the great Ayrton Senna!

Don't confuse history with hype. Only Alain Prost had issues with Senna. He received praise and reverence from everyone else especially his other teammates [Berger, Hakkinen, deAngelis, and Hill]. Mansell thought he was the toughest, purist racer he had ever faced.