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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:46 am
by RE30B#16
What a thrilling race!!!

Great drives from:

Michael S - Still good! :box:

Can you hear the bells, Fernando? - The current "best" despite not even finishing! :threat:

Robert "Rubix" Kubica - A podium in his third race at the ultra fast Monza with Sauber-BMW?!? Nice! :clap: :3rd: :nospam: :up:

Raikkonen - Inspired again! :croc:

Fisichella - A solid finisher and teammate. Believe it! :axe:

PDLR - Deserves the seat despite not finishing. Will win races if given the chance. :knight:

Button and Barrichello - Solid, but not spectacular. :duel:

Webber - Improved about 10 places! :bang:

Klien and Coulthard - Some inspired driving. Red Bull is still a 2nd rate team, however. (How did Klien end up in front of DC?) :clap:

Heidfeld and Massa - Wha' happ'n'd??!? :conf2:

Trulli - Still fast! :burnout:

The rest? Average.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:19 am
by JayVee
Despite the totally unfair penalty that dropped Alonso 5 places, Alonso once again demonstrated what he is made of. Cool and calm he moved from 10th to 3rd. It was frustrating to see him retire after managing to get ahead of Kubica and Massa. With a 3rd place finish he would have been 8 points ahead with 3 races to go but his pace was encouraging and I for one am looking forward to the last 3 races of the season where Alonso will just frustrate Michael!

Raikkonen was strong too but the driver that most impressed me was Kubica! A podium on his 3rd race! Well done

I thought Massa would do better after winning in Turkey.

Coverage was poor! They concentrated too much on Ferrari and missed some real action!

China is too far away :(

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:25 am
by Julian Mayo
JayVee wrote:Despite the totally unfair penalty that dropped Alonso 5 places, Alonso once again demonstrated what he is made of. Cool and calm he moved from 10th to 3rd. It was frustrating to see him retire after managing to get ahead of Kubica and Massa. With a 3rd place finish he would have been 8 points ahead with 3 races to go but his pace was encouraging and I for one am looking forward to the last 3 races of the season where Alonso will just frustrate Michael!

Raikkonen was strong too but the driver that most impressed me was Kubica! A podium on his 3rd race! Well done

I thought Massa would do better after winning in Turkey.

Coverage was poor! They concentrated too much on Ferrari and missed some real action!

China is too far away :(
Italian TV directors tend to do that at Monza :lol:
Renault may be thinking about going back to the '06 engine, that was as big a blow up as it gets :cry:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:47 am
by jacfan
Haven't watched the race yet. Will post a comment when I do. :D

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:49 am
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Haven't watched the race yet. Will post a comment when I do. :D
just one :?: :shock: ............ :burnout: :flag:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:54 am
by jacfan
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Haven't watched the race yet. Will post a comment when I do. :D
just one :?: :shock: ............ :burnout: :flag:
Hmmmm hard to say... depends on how many PMs I am sending to someone here who is .... ummmmm......no I will leave that one alone.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:59 am
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Haven't watched the race yet. Will post a comment when I do. :D
just one :?: :shock: ............ :burnout: :flag:
Hmmmm hard to say... depends on how many PMs I am sending to someone here who is .... ummmmm......no I will leave that one alone.
:oops: :wave:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:18 pm
by Ed
Selected Driver and Team quotes:

Michael Schumacher - Winner
?A marvellous win in front of our fans. Being on the podium alongside Jean was an
indescribable feeling. From up there, we could see a sea of fans and you could feel the love they have for Ferrari. Super! If I had had to talk about my decision at that moment, I would not have managed to get the words out of my mouth?.The race was relatively straightforward. We were hoping that Kimi would pit before us and he did. Everything went according to plan with no particular worries. The most emotional moment was the final lap. After the chequered flag I came on the radio and told all my friends in the team what I was about to announce and it was
really difficult to keep my emotions under control. This win is very important in terms of both titles. We have taken the lead in the Constructors? and as for the Drivers,? we are no longer dependent on our rivals? performance.
Kimi Raikkonen - 2nd
I?m happy with my second place here in Monza. All in all this was a good weekend for us, and the team has done a fantastic job. We have improved our starting system, which helped me a lot on the run to the first corner. I was controlling the race until my first pit stop but the fact that Michael was able to stay out for one more lap than me eventually decided the outcome of the race.
Robert Kubica - 3rd
Before the race some guys from the team came to me and told me they would like to see me on the podium, I thought it was a joke and now we are here. This time we knew we had good tyres, not only for qualifying but also for the race, unlike in Istanbul. When we got easily into qualifying three we also knew we had quite a consistent car for the race. I had a good start, but unfortunately locked the front wheels in the first corner, had flat spots and the first stint was quite difficult as I had a vibration. It was always a tough race as I had to fight with Massa and Alonso. Lapping the guys did not help as I was the first one of the group to lap them and I always lost one second. I came out of the second pit stop side by side with Alonso. Then his engine blew up and it was really risky as there was oil, Massa went off and I think had a puncture. The end of the race was quite easy for me and I just had to bring the car home. I now have the first podium of my life in Formula 1. I want to thank the team for giving me this opportunity ? we all are very, very proud.
Giancarlo Fisichella - 4th
This wasn't an easy race by any means, starting from ninth position and running with a heavy fuel load for long parts of the race. But the Michelin tyres were extremely consistent, the car balance was good and I managed to make up five positions. Obviously, this has been a tough day for the team, with Fernando retiring and Renault losing the lead of the championship. On a personal level, I have made up ground on Massa for third in the drivers' title, and the encouraging thing is that our performance was very strong at this circuit. We have a small deficit in the constructors' championship, but will keep on fighting to the end. The team will be doing everything to win both titles.
Jenson Button - 5th
This is a good team result although we were looking for more from today. The balance wasn't anywhere near as good as we'd hoped for. We made some adjustments at the first stop but we were still not as quick as we needed to be. I think we can feel reasonably pleased with this result at the end of a challenging weekend.
Rubens Barrichello - 6th
I suffered a little bit at the start because I was quite heavy with fuel. Unfortunately since the start of the weekend we didn't have good straight line speed which is why Fisichella was able to pass me quite easily. From there on I was struggling with rear grip and I was really just 'surviving'. When you consider where we started from after the problems on Friday I think this is a good result for the team, getting two cars into the points once again.
Jarno Trulli - 7th
That really was the maximum we could have achieved today so I will go away happy tonight. I made a reasonable start and just made sure to avoid any kind of accident on the first lap, and from then on I had a pretty good race. It all went pretty smoothly, especially considering that I had Barrichello in front of me on the first stint slowing me down. Otherwise I could have gone slightly better but nevertheless the car's balance felt good throughout the race. It was also a trouble-free race for me so thanks to the team and everybody involved for the good job they have done this week and at last week's test. Now I look forward to the last three races which I believe will suit our car better.
Nick Heidfeld - 8th
It is a fantastic result for our team. Yesterday I was third in qualifying and today Robert is third in the race. Over the last few GP we have made real improvements and I hope we can keep up this momentum for the overseas races. Of course, I am not too happy with my own result today. I had a superb start. I was ahead of Michael when we entered the first corner. He came alongside me and I had to move onto the dirt, but the manoeuvre was okay. I got a lot of dirt on the tyres and this was my handicap for the whole of the first lap. Later the pace was good, but then I got the drive through penalty. Towards the end of the race I was faster than Trulli, but couldn?t attack. I had an opportunity in turn one, but Alonso?s engine oil was on the line I would use for this.
Teams:

Ferrari - Jean Todt
I don?t know if I should start by talking about my feelings after this fantastic victory or about those that stem from the announcement of Michael?s retirement. Of course, I had known for a while that this was his decision, but the news breaking alongside this great win makes today special. It is very gratifying to win here, in front of our Ferrari colleagues who packed out the grandstand at the Parabolica and in front of all our fans. The car, the Bridgestone tyres and the team were all great. This result sees us move into the lead in the Constructors? classification and it also considerably reduces the gap between Michael and the leader of the Drivers.? I am sorry for Felipe: an unplanned stop prevented him from bringing home a good result in a race where he never really managed
to get the most out of the car because of traffic. It?s a shame, because all weekend he had been very competitive. Now both championships will be decided over the three races. We are up against very strong opposition but we are very determined and motivated to win both titles. We must remain concentrated and united to make Ferrari even better and to bring to a close in the best possible way this magnificent chapter in our history, which began eleven years ago when Michael arrived.
McLaren - Ron Dennis
A good drive from Kimi. A single lap of more fuel in the first stint could have turned second into a possible victory ? but that?s racing. Pedro suffered a rare engine failure, which meant an early end to his race. The result shows how the team?s relentless efforts and disciplined approach throughout this weekend led to a positive result. Irrespective of the announcement of Kimi's future ? and of course we wish him all the best ? the entire team will continue to focus on the balance of this season where race wins are still possible as illustrated by today's result.
BMW Sauber - Mario Theissen
Third and eighth in the race are the crowning glory of a fantastic weekend for our young team. In qualifying our cars were quick with and without fuel, and we confirmed this in today?s race. I am particularly happy with our second podium within five weeks because it also justifies our decision to put Robert in the race car. Nick also drove a strong race. Unfortunately he broke the speed limit during his first pit stop, but despite the penalty he managed to score a point. Compliments to our team in Monza, Hinwil and Munich.
Renault - Flavio Briatore
Nobody is ever happy to break an engine, but that is part of the sport. The problem comes when it is not just the sport that influences the outcome of races and championships. Fernando did the maximum possible from his grid position, and would have finished on the podium easily. The team did a fantastic job in the pit-stops to get him out in front of Kubica; in fact, they performed faultlessly all weekend. Giancarlo drove a strong race too, and his points will be important in the constructors' championship. Now, we have to prepare properly for the three final races of the season. The team is strong, and we are still fighting very hard.
Honda - Gil de Ferran
I think we can feel reasonably happy with our result today. Another double points finish for our team in a weekend that started with some difficulties. We decided on different strategies for Jenson and Rubens, but in the end they were as closely matched this afternoon as they were yesterday. The balance of our cars was not quite as good as it was during practice and qualifying therefore we lacked a little pace to put up a stronger challenge for higher positions. Otherwise we have no problems to report; the engines ran well and the pitstops were smooth and fast. We leave Europe reasonably satisfied with the progress we have made but still pushing for further improvement in the last three races.
Toyota - Tsutomu Tomita
[quiote]We came here expecting unsettled weather but in the end all three days have been fine. We also expected more from this weekend but we struggled with the performance of the car on Friday and Saturday. It was a pity that we missed out on Q3 and it meant today was always going to be hard work. But today was much better and our pace was closer to what we expected from the whole weekend. Given our grid positions the only sensible choice was to go for one pit stop and everything worked well. Jarno had been happy with his balance on the first two days but he was short of top speed. But today he had a very strong race considering his grid position, so well done to him for going up to 7th from 11th. He made no mistakes and pushed hard all through the race on his way to the points. Ralf spent most of the race in traffic so it is difficult to judge what he could have achieved but he still brought the car home. Our tyres were consistent and reasonably fast so we have achieved the best we could have managed today. The car configuration we will use at the last three races of the year will be different and we are confident that we will be able to improve our level of performance. We will head to Shanghai with a target of challenging the top cars again.[/quote]

Williams - Sam Michael
Mark had a good start and drove a consistent race all afternoon to finish p10, which is where the car is currently at. On Nico?s car, we had a problem with a driveshaft and he lost drive, the exact cause of which is not yet known and we will investigate this later. Nico was looking good for a points finish, but it was not to be. Apart from that, we still have some work to do to close the gap to the front.
Red Bull - Christian Horner
Unfortunately Christian headed a not particularly fast Red Bull train today, with 11th and 12th being the net result for our two drivers. This circuit was always going to expose our inherent weakness within the current package, but the important thing is to learn from
it and act upon the lessons learnt for next year. So, a disappointing race with the only positive factor being that we got two cars to the finish.
Toro Rosso - Gerhard Berger
Both our drivers did a good job and given that this is our performance level and not many cars ahead retired, we could not really expect more. We showed good speed through the race and both cars finished, so well done to everyone in the team- a good effort. Schumacher's retirement? It is a pity for Formula 1 to lose such a great champion, but the time to stop comes to everyone. He put on a fantastic performance again today and because of what happened to Alonso, everyone here and all the fans are going to be treated to a great end to the championship
Super Aguri - Aguri Suzuki
Taku had a tough race today and did a good job to bring the car home. Sakon suffered a hydraulic problem and I am sorry that once again he was unable to finish the race. We will work hard at the coming Silverstone test to try to solve the problems that we are encountering with the SA06 so that we can look forward to the last flyaway races and especially our second home race in Suzuka.
MF1 Racing - Colin Kolles
I think the performance of the cars was very good. Christijan's puncture ruined his chances for a good result, and Tiago had some brake problems that prevented him from finishing. But if you look at their times, they were quite competitive. Considering this is supposed to be the worst circuit for us, that's quite encouraging.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:19 pm
by Snowy
JayVee wrote:I for one am looking forward to the last 3 races of the season where Alonso will just frustrate Michael!
Not if the FIA have anything to do with it :evil: :x :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:28 pm
by Snowy
If Fernando gets even a little nervous he faces being penalised for creating excess wind :cry: and impeeding the progress of other competitors who aren't even involved in the championship race. :x

:evil: Max knows so much about race car areodynamics that he is able to defy the laws of physics. :shock: :x :shock:

I wish he'd retire along with Bernie and we can keep Michael and watch him being beaten on a level playing field. :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:39 pm
by Snowy
That's very interesting...I couldn't bring myself to vote for Schuey, thought voting for Kubica was tempting but a bit obvious...needed to know how the vote was going so I plumped for Kimi because he hasn't had a particularly good season so far - I don't actually remember him finnishing( :) ) a race. To my absolute suprise I see nobody has voted for Michael. :shock: :) Come on there must be someone who appreciates a winning drive? :roll: From a great champion? :roll:

I'm glad I didn't vote for Kubica like the rest of the herd :wink:

We should have been allowed to vote for Alonso Ed :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:05 pm
by Julian Mayo
Snowy wrote:
JayVee wrote:I for one am looking forward to the last 3 races of the season where Alonso will just frustrate Michael!
Not if the FIA have anything to do with it :evil: :x :roll:
:twisted:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:06 pm
by Julian Mayo
Snowy wrote:If Fernando gets even a little nervous he faces being penalised for creating excess wind :cry: and impeeding the progress of other competitors who aren't even involved in the championship race. :x

:evil: Max knows so much about race car areodynamics that he is able to defy the laws of physics. :shock: :x :shock:

I wish he'd retire along with Bernie and we can keep Michael and watch him being beaten on a level playing field. :roll:
So basically you are saying, that if Alonso F arts he gets a 5 spot penalty :shock:

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:10 pm
by Julian Mayo
Snowy wrote:That's very interesting...I couldn't bring myself to vote for Schuey, thought voting for Kubica was tempting but a bit obvious...needed to know how the vote was going so I plumped for Kimi because he hasn't had a particularly good season so far - I don't actually remember him finnishing( :) ) a race. To my absolute suprise I see nobody has voted for Michael. :shock: :) Come on there must be someone who appreciates a winning drive? :roll: From a great champion? :roll:

I'm glad I didn't vote for Kubica like the rest of the herd :wink:

We should have been allowed to vote for Alonso Ed :roll:
In all fairness to the #*#@*#@**#g bloke and team, Schuey/ Ferrari did what we take for granted.Tht is why he didn't get my vote. He didn't do anything special 8)

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:12 pm
by gkaytaz
Snowy wrote:That's very interesting...I couldn't bring myself to vote for Schuey, thought voting for Kubica was tempting but a bit obvious...needed to know how the vote was going so I plumped for Kimi because he hasn't had a particularly good season so far - I don't actually remember him finnishing( :) ) a race. To my absolute suprise I see nobody has voted for Michael. :shock: :) Come on there must be someone who appreciates a winning drive? :roll: From a great champion? :roll:

I'm glad I didn't vote for Kubica like the rest of the herd :wink:

We should have been allowed to vote for Alonso Ed :roll:
I voted for Kubica too cuz honestly taken all into account he was the best driver out there yesterday. A solid performance following a very good quali session and a deserved podium in his third F1 race. Neither Kimi nor Michael did anything extraordinary. It was just a matter of decent driving and a series of pitstop strategies. I felt a little bad for Alonso though. He did some good driving too, considering he came from 10th and climbed up to 3rd at some point. As for others:
Fisi did his job just well enough. Button and Barrichello both vanilla. De La Rosa could have been a lot better. If he's given a chance he can do well. Heidfeld screwed himself by speeding in the pitlane. Trulli finally did some good for his team whereas Ralf proved to be a huge disappointment. Ditto for Massa. It was kinda neat to see a Super Aguri finish ahead of an MF1.

All in all a good race but nothing spectacular.