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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:41 am
by Julian Mayo
Ed wrote:Guys that is a bit harsh!

They have contracts and it is up to the team's management to make the driver work hard on acheiving the targets or not.

If it is anyone, it should be the team's management that should be criticised.

And we don't want to promote that kind of action on these forums, do we ?
If Toyota are serious they ned serious drivers......Trulli can be as quick as anyone, on a dry track, for 10 laps, Schuey Two has scared himself 8)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:43 am
by gkaytaz
Ed wrote: Very reasonable and if they don't then terminate their contract.
But what was suggested to be done to them was a bit harsh.
We are a creative bunch... :)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:45 am
by Julian Mayo
Amjad wrote:
JayVee wrote:Toyota remind me of Honda/BAR a few years ago .....

Sorry but they will have a bad year.

Wasn't there a serious Ralf Schumacher fan here ? I'd like to hear his/her predictions :wink:
Thanks JayVee,
But really i don't know about toyota in 2007, they look very strong and they build car in new concept, they throw the TF106 away and start new one, which mean they back 2 years behind.
I predict toyota will have a win in the first 5 races, if not they will not make it this year. but i can see them regular point scorer and podium visitor.
For Ralf, give him a competative car and see him racing.
Welcome back Amjad :clap: :clap: :clap: I Suspect that Ralf has nightmares about turn 13.......he now has back n neck injuries....n he hasn't been the same since he tried to nerf Mark for the third time in a row, and visited the wall

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:47 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:
Ed wrote:Guys that is a bit harsh!

They have contracts and it is up to the team's management to make the driver work hard on acheiving the targets or not.

If it is anyone, it should be the team's management that should be criticised.

And we don't want to promote that kind of action on these forums, do we ?
If Toyota are serious they ned serious drivers......Trulli can be as quick as anyone, on a dry track, for 10 laps, Schuey Two has scared himself 8)
Trulli has three poles, one win and no fastest laps in 10 full seasons. That tells something to me.

Ralf is better in that respect (7 fastest laps, 6 poles and 6 wins) in 10 full seasons. It's just that I can't help but feel he's slowly past his prime...

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:49 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote: Welcome back Amjad :clap: :clap: :clap: I Suspect that Ralf has nightmares about turn 13.......he now has back n neck injuries....n he hasn't been the same since he tried to nerf Mark for the third time in a row, and visited the wall
His 2004 USA GP crash was perhaps one of the worst crashes ever in F1...

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:57 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: Welcome back Amjad :clap: :clap: :clap: I Suspect that Ralf has nightmares about turn 13.......he now has back n neck injuries....n he hasn't been the same since he tried to nerf Mark for the third time in a row, and visited the wall
His 2004 USA GP crash was perhaps one of the worst crashes ever in F1...
There a few would argue that point.....tis all about G-force n the point of impact. Button was lucky at Monaco. In my short career it was pointed out that every driver will have a "big one".....if they had said how big......I would have challenged for tiddliwinks champion 8)

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:35 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote: His 2004 USA GP crash was perhaps one of the worst crashes ever in F1...
There a few would argue that point.....tis all about G-force n the point of impact. Button was lucky at Monaco. In my short career it was pointed out that every driver will have a "big one".....if they had said how big......I would have challenged for tiddliwinks champion 8)
Agree with the G-force point. That crash was rated 75+ g! That's no joke, mind you.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:36 am
by <T-K>
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote: His 2004 USA GP crash was perhaps one of the worst crashes ever in F1...
There a few would argue that point.....tis all about G-force n the point of impact. Button was lucky at Monaco. In my short career it was pointed out that every driver will have a "big one".....if they had said how big......I would have challenged for tiddliwinks champion 8)
Agree with the G-force point. That crash was rated 75+ g! That's no joke, mind you.
I am more than likely wrong here, but didnt Massa have a crash in Canada rated 115G a few years back?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:08 am
by GhoGho
<T-K> wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
There a few would argue that point.....tis all about G-force n the point of impact. Button was lucky at Monaco. In my short career it was pointed out that every driver will have a "big one".....if they had said how big......I would have challenged for tiddliwinks champion 8)
Agree with the G-force point. That crash was rated 75+ g! That's no joke, mind you.
I am more than likely wrong here, but didnt Massa have a crash in Canada rated 115G a few years back?
You could be right, but it was measured on the sphincter scale......... :lol:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:35 pm
by jacfan
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
Ed wrote:Guys that is a bit harsh!

They have contracts and it is up to the team's management to make the driver work hard on acheiving the targets or not.

If it is anyone, it should be the team's management that should be criticised.

And we don't want to promote that kind of action on these forums, do we ?
If Toyota are serious they ned serious drivers......Trulli can be as quick as anyone, on a dry track, for 10 laps, Schuey Two has scared himself 8)
Trulli has three poles, one win and no fastest laps in 10 full seasons. That tells something to me.

Ralf is better in that respect (7 fastest laps, 6 poles and 6 wins) in 10 full seasons. It's just that I can't help but feel he's slowly past his prime...
Six wins in 10 years while big bro goes on and on winning WDCs has to do weird things to your brain and sqaush and kill the ego.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:39 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
If Toyota are serious they ned serious drivers......Trulli can be as quick as anyone, on a dry track, for 10 laps, Schuey Two has scared himself 8)
Trulli has three poles, one win and no fastest laps in 10 full seasons. That tells something to me.

Ralf is better in that respect (7 fastest laps, 6 poles and 6 wins) in 10 full seasons. It's just that I can't help but feel he's slowly past his prime...
Six wins in 10 years while big bro goes on and on winning WDCs has to do weird things to your brain and sqaush and kill the ego.

There isn't too much wrong with Ralf's ego, when you listen to him :?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:42 pm
by jacfan
Ah but I don't listen to him :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:13 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Ah but I don't listen to him :shock: :shock: :shock:
Does anyone, these days?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:35 pm
by gkaytaz
<T-K> wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
There a few would argue that point.....tis all about G-force n the point of impact. Button was lucky at Monaco. In my short career it was pointed out that every driver will have a "big one".....if they had said how big......I would have challenged for tiddliwinks champion 8)
Agree with the G-force point. That crash was rated 75+ g! That's no joke, mind you.
I am more than likely wrong here, but didnt Massa have a crash in Canada rated 115G a few years back?
My brain gives a file not found error on that one. Will have to check it out... If I can find any information I'll let you know...

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:36 pm
by gkaytaz
jacfan wrote:Six wins in 10 years while big bro goes on and on winning WDCs has to do weird things to your brain and sqaush and kill the ego.
As JM also pointed out, there's quite a bit of ego to go around in the Schumacher family :)