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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:47 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Sometimes I wish I had an "edit" button for my life. Then I could erase all the stupid things I say and do. :roll:
You can use my "on" button, instead :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:49 pm
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:
jacfan wrote:Sometimes I wish I had an "edit" button for my life. Then I could erase all the stupid things I say and do. :roll:
An UNDO button would be very welcome in my case. Also maybe a SYSTEM RESTORE :)
People tend to reboot me a lot :?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:35 pm
by Tim
gkaytaz wrote:
Ed wrote: The forums are running a bit slow for some reason :shock:

If after you submit a post the browser times out, it sometimes does get posted. Use the back button, copy your post (CTRL - C) just in case and go back again and do a refresh. Your post could already be there!!

We'll clean up all the double posts!
I didn't notice a slowdown. Maybe it was just a temporary problem. As for the preview button: neat idea of course but given that the only meaning of button for most people here is Jenson Button, you will be cleaning up double posts for aeons to come :)
There was a problem particularly with posting, it was timing out when submitting a post, by hitting the back button and clicking submit again, a double post results.
We have carried out online table optimisation on the heavily populated tables and hopefully it solved that problem.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:12 pm
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
jacfan wrote:Sometimes I wish I had an "edit" button for my life. Then I could erase all the stupid things I say and do. :roll:
An UNDO button would be very welcome in my case. Also maybe a SYSTEM RESTORE :)
People tend to reboot me a lot :?
I know a couple of people that make me wish that they would come with a "mute" button and a "make sense" button... Oh and of course a "please crawl back under your rock of mediocrity" button.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:12 pm
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
An UNDO button would be very welcome in my case. Also maybe a SYSTEM RESTORE :)
People tend to reboot me a lot :?
I know a couple of people that make me wish that they would come with a "mute" button and a "make sense" button... Oh and of course a "please crawl back under your rock of mediocrity" button.
I'd like to sneak around the back n place half a stick under those rocks.
I have an "autosound whitenoise button", it blanks out those who are in need of muting.............and of course this all came about cos of Jensen, so we are not :offtopic: 8)

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:15 pm
by Julian Mayo
Tim wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Ed wrote: The forums are running a bit slow for some reason :shock:

If after you submit a post the browser times out, it sometimes does get posted. Use the back button, copy your post (CTRL - C) just in case and go back again and do a refresh. Your post could already be there!!

We'll clean up all the double posts!
I didn't notice a slowdown. Maybe it was just a temporary problem. As for the preview button: neat idea of course but given that the only meaning of button for most people here is Jenson Button, you will be cleaning up double posts for aeons to come :)
There was a problem particularly with posting, it was timing out when submitting a post, by hitting the back button and clicking submit again, a double post results.
We have carried out online table optimisation on the heavily populated tables and hopefully it solved that problem.
That delay was giving me anxiety twitches during the Bathurst coverage Ed.......it was getting up towards the minute mark.....then the windstorm hit....all my screens went blank.......they heard my gut wrenching wail of despair in the next County :cry:

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:22 pm
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:
I'd like to sneak around the back n place half a stick under those rocks.
I have an "autosound whitenoise button", it blanks out those who are in need of muting.............and of course this all came about cos of Jensen, so we are not :offtopic: 8)
Yeah. Sometimes I even amaze myself with my ability of sticking to the topic :P

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:25 pm
by jacfan
Yes it amazing the amount of different "Jensons" there are.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:33 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Yes it amazing the amount of different "Jensons" there are.
n Buttons.......... :woohoo: :bounceg: :oops:

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:51 am
by JayVee
Ed wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Try and cut Julian some slack. He has had to put up with me ringing him with all my problems as well as dealing with his own life. We all make mistakes/typos sometimes and to be able to go back and fix them is great. Wish I could do it sometimes.
JacFan, thanks but I must stress again that it is a pleasure to be there. It is in no way interfering with my life :lol:
Or my spelling :cry: Hence the edit. 8)
Which wasn't posted as an edit :shock:
Or that time :shock: Ahah, perhaps there is a "Window" edit, in which, if an edit is made, it doesn't appear as an edit :idea: Ed :?:
From the day we setup these forums we decided that posts that have been replied to cannot be edited. A time window doesn't work as sometimes people reply as soon as a post is made.
Allowing someone to edit a post after it has been replied can cause major issues between members.
Only moderators can edit other members posts in the forum they are moderating. The editing feature is only intended to be used for removing posts or parts of a post that isn't allowed. It isn't intended to be used for any other purpose.
Modertators are allowed to edit their own posts as they may need to update certain posts (Championship table for example). All our moderators don't abuse their powers and I haven't seen any case of that, be it mlittle, Julian, <T-K> (or myself!), none have edited a post to change its meaning.
I believe Julian edited his post to clarify and it seems to have been misunderstood by JayVee and that is why editing posts after a reply isn't allowed for members and should be used with extreme caution by moderators.

There is a Preview button next to the Submit button , it should be used more often perhaps :wink:
I don't want to argue with you Ed as I have made it clear that my post to Julian was final and this reply is only to put my point across to you Ed and I would have made it as a PM but you chose to make your explanation public.

With all due respect Ed, a moderator should - by the nature of their task -be more responsible and clarify what they do when it comes to editing posts. It is common that moderators state they have edited a post and explain why. I didn't have to find out by myself for you or Julian to then explain.
By the same token, a moderator shouldn't be making funny/ridiculous statements on one driver yet claim "still getting over other peoples major misfortunes" when a normal member makes a normal comment on Webber.

The forum doesn't become a fun place when one members due to their status behaves above the rules.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:40 pm
by gkaytaz
So, you guys think Suzuka will be back in the F1 calendar soon :?: If there is a signature campaign please let us know. Should we start one? Of course Bernie wouldn't have any of it unless a number of $ are attached to the deal... :x

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:59 pm
by Julian Mayo
nup
nup
yep
yep

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:33 pm
by gkaytaz
Alright then. I will keep an eye out for a campaign. If none has started in a few months we can start our own.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:52 pm
by Ed
JayVee wrote:
Ed wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
JacFan, thanks but I must stress again that it is a pleasure to be there. It is in no way interfering with my life :lol:
Or my spelling :cry: Hence the edit. 8)
Which wasn't posted as an edit :shock:
Or that time :shock: Ahah, perhaps there is a "Window" edit, in which, if an edit is made, it doesn't appear as an edit :idea: Ed :?:
From the day we setup these forums we decided that posts that have been replied to cannot be edited. A time window doesn't work as sometimes people reply as soon as a post is made.
Allowing someone to edit a post after it has been replied can cause major issues between members.
Only moderators can edit other members posts in the forum they are moderating. The editing feature is only intended to be used for removing posts or parts of a post that isn't allowed. It isn't intended to be used for any other purpose.
Modertators are allowed to edit their own posts as they may need to update certain posts (Championship table for example). All our moderators don't abuse their powers and I haven't seen any case of that, be it mlittle, Julian, <T-K> (or myself!), none have edited a post to change its meaning.
I believe Julian edited his post to clarify and it seems to have been misunderstood by JayVee and that is why editing posts after a reply isn't allowed for members and should be used with extreme caution by moderators.

There is a Preview button next to the Submit button , it should be used more often perhaps :wink:
I don't want to argue with you Ed as I have made it clear that my post to Julian was final and this reply is only to put my point across to you Ed and I would have made it as a PM but you chose to make your explanation public.

With all due respect Ed, a moderator should - by the nature of their task -be more responsible and clarify what they do when it comes to editing posts. It is common that moderators state they have edited a post and explain why. I didn't have to find out by myself for you or Julian to then explain.
By the same token, a moderator shouldn't be making funny/ridiculous statements on one driver yet claim "still getting over other peoples major misfortunes" when a normal member makes a normal comment on Webber.

The forum doesn't become a fun place when one members due to their status behaves above the rules.
JayVee,

I think that I have tried to clarify the situation in my previous post. As I said I believe Julian made his edit to clarify that his post wasn't directly related to China or Japan, he may have not specifically stated that he edited a previous post and on that point I agree with you that he perhaps should have indicated that and because of that I did say that moderators should use extreme caution when editing earlier posts.
I assure you and everyone else that no moderator plays above the rules.

As for the other comment, well I am sure you are aware that Julian is the V8 Supercar moderator and was doing a great job covering the Bathurst race despite the massive shunt that lead to the death of Mark Porter, the passing away of Jacfan's mother as well as other misfortunes that he has had to deal with recently.
Yes he made a comment on Button and you immediately replied back, then what appears to be a misunderstanding started. You seem to be 100% sure what Julian meant but you shouldn't really conclude that and Julian did specifically state that his comments had nothing to do with China or Japan, and because of those misfortunes, he didn't want to engage in a discussion. End of story I would have thought.
As someone who has had many discussions with Julian, you should know his style by now and you really shouldn't be concluding that Julian plays above the rules. To his credit, he has been moderating the V8 forum for over a year now and never have we felt that he used his status to his own advantage.

JayVee, we value your contribution greatly and I am sure many members enjoy the discussions you get involved in. There will always be differences and that is what makes it fun but lets try not to take things too personal.

Thanks

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:06 pm
by Ed
gkaytaz wrote:So, you guys think Suzuka will be back in the F1 calendar soon :?: If there is a signature campaign please let us know. Should we start one? Of course Bernie wouldn't have any of it unless a number of $ are attached to the deal... :x
The amount of talk about a Pacific Grand Prix in 2008 makes one feel that Suzuka will be back very soon. Perhaps just a one year absence.
This can turn into another fierce competition between Honda and Toyota and money wouldn't really matter then!