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jacfan wrote:Cluckkk cluck cluck cluckkkkkkkkkkk

Fancy a little red rooster................?.......................

Has he been racing in the German GP.... see I do remember to stay on topic.
As for the red rooster ... welllllllllllllllllllllllll

jacfan wrote:Has he been racing in the German GP.... see I do remember to stay on topic.
As for the red rooster ... welllllllllllllllllllllllll

That Ferrari is quick
COCKADOODLEDOO

Kapel wrote:Toyota surely are improving with Truli but Ralfie is surely going down...with all the things he did in the race without those bumping,speeding in pits he would have surely finished ahead of the Reanults...

Okay, Kapel, we get your point, but Ralfie beating the Renaults? That would be like betting on a donkey to beat Secretariat!

False,

the TOYOTAs were both faster than the RENAULTs. Jarno came from last to catch up with them and RALF was even faster after he had already finished 4th in France. So what donkey are you talkin about?

The Toyota's were both exceptionally fast.
Trulli from the rear of the grid and Ralf having his usual "race incident" to finish just outside the points with as 4 pit visits during the race.

F1greyhound wrote:False,

the TOYOTAs were both faster than the RENAULTs. Jarno came from last to catch up with them and RALF was even faster after he had already finished 4th in France. So what donkey are you talkin about?

It fully true, even im very embarrassed from other guys (GhoGho, JayVee, Julian Mayo )where i make defend line to defined Ralf but after his wild moves, i ended with my face in the ground, but i think we all see his ability to give him self a solid race when he want to even after STUPID mistakes.
Ralf and Trulli where 4th and 5th fastest drivers in the race and If we considers Kimi was 3 stopper, so he was faster because he has less fuel in the start of the each stint where tire preform at thier best, so we can say Maclaren and Toyota are in the same level and if Renault keep it pace down we can see many podiums for Toyota and Maclaren.

RE30B#16 wrote:

Kapel wrote:Toyota surely are improving with Truli but Ralfie is surely going down...with all the things he did in the race without those bumping,speeding in pits he would have surely finished ahead of the Reanults...

Okay, Kapel, we get your point, but Ralfie beating the Renaults? That would be like betting on a donkey to beat Secretariat!

Or Secretariat to beat Phar Lap .....

Seems like we didnt have all the info last week.
Everyone blaming MAX (who should be blamed anyway) Charley W, Ferrari, other teams, Michelin etc.etc.

Renault also changed the rear suspension last week which was probably the main reason for the rear tires blistering, resulting in their poor performance.

Quote from f1.racing-live.com
"Moreover, a brand new rear suspension kit that was used at Hockenheim has been pulled from the R26. Symonds confirmed that the 'previous specification' will almost certainly be used throughout this weekend."

So maybe, just maybe, the blame should be placed at Renaults door............

GhoGho wrote:Seems like we didnt have all the info last week.
Everyone blaming MAX (who should be blamed anyway) Charley W, Ferrari, other teams, Michelin etc.etc.

Renault also changed the rear suspension last week which was probably the main reason for the rear tires blistering, resulting in their poor performance.

Quote from f1.racing-live.com
"Moreover, a brand new rear suspension kit that was used at Hockenheim has been pulled from the R26. Symonds confirmed that the 'previous specification' will almost certainly be used throughout this weekend."

So maybe, just maybe, the blame should be placed at Renaults door............

Fair enough, but can we still blame Max as well ?

RE30B#16 wrote:

Kapel wrote:Toyota surely are improving with Truli but Ralfie is surely going down...with all the things he did in the race without those bumping,speeding in pits he would have surely finished ahead of the Reanults...

Okay, Kapel, we get your point, but Ralfie beating the Renaults? That would be like betting on a donkey to beat Secretariat!

Do u also wear Blue & Yellow glasses? Toyota were much faster than Renault in Germany period! Thats what i'm talking abt

GhoGho wrote:Seems like we didnt have all the info last week.
Everyone blaming MAX (who should be blamed anyway) Charley W, Ferrari, other teams, Michelin etc.etc.

Renault also changed the rear suspension last week which was probably the main reason for the rear tires blistering, resulting in their poor performance.

Quote from f1.racing-live.com
"Moreover, a brand new rear suspension kit that was used at Hockenheim has been pulled from the R26. Symonds confirmed that the 'previous specification' will almost certainly be used throughout this weekend."

So maybe, just maybe, the blame should be placed at Renaults door............

It was Mclaren who pinpointed on the mass dampers on Renaults & Ferraris,cos their couldnt give them any advantage...so Renault suffered more cos their car is built around the mass dampers N not Ferraris...N ya the new suspension was also the cos of Renaults rear tyre balding

Julian,surely we can blame Max for this

jacfan wrote:[No Kapel, it was not directed at you. I was making a joke. JayVee just misspelt the word foul as fowl, which is like chickens so it was just a joke. Sorry if you or anyone else took offence.

Me too

Julian Mayo wrote:

GhoGho wrote:Seems like we didnt have all the info last week.
Everyone blaming MAX (who should be blamed anyway) Charley W, Ferrari, other teams, Michelin etc.etc.

Renault also changed the rear suspension last week which was probably the main reason for the rear tires blistering, resulting in their poor performance.

Quote from f1.racing-live.com
"Moreover, a brand new rear suspension kit that was used at Hockenheim has been pulled from the R26. Symonds confirmed that the 'previous specification' will almost certainly be used throughout this weekend."

So maybe, just maybe, the blame should be placed at Renaults door............

Fair enough, but can we still blame Max as well ?

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!! I did say he should be blamed anyway!!

F1greyhound wrote:False,

the TOYOTAs were both faster than the RENAULTs. Jarno came from last to catch up with them and RALF was even faster after he had already finished 4th in France. So what donkey are you talkin about?

DONKEY?!!? [in the voice of Shrek]

Ralf Shoe!!

Fast cars do not a race winner make. Otherwise Jenson Button would have more than a few GP victories along with Andrea deCesaris, Chris Amon, Martin Brundle and others.

I don't see Ralf beating his brother, Alonso, Raikkonen or Barrichello in a straight fight no matter what the damn car can do!