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Byron Forbes wrote:There are a lot of good points here, but let's go all the way back.

Back at the Indy 500 Firestone (Bridgestone) became aware of abnormalities at the resurfaced circuit.

This is what I've read before too.

Any more info on this from our American friends ?

Graham Ross wrote:

Byron Forbes wrote:There are a lot of good points here, but let's go all the way back.

Back at the Indy 500 Firestone (Bridgestone) became aware of abnormalities at the resurfaced circuit.

This is what I've read before too.

Any more info on this from our American friends ?

Niel Cromptom mentioned it at length prior to the farce starting

winer wrote:My apologies if this has been asked before, but I just couldn't wade through 25 pages of comments. Does anyone have an email address for the FIA? There isn't one on their official website. Thanks.

The FIA contacts are available on their contact page (http://www.fia.com/global/contacts.html)

Graham Ross wrote:

Byron Forbes wrote:There are a lot of good points here, but let's go all the way back.

Back at the Indy 500 Firestone (Bridgestone) became aware of abnormalities at the resurfaced circuit.

This is what I've read before too.

This is sad & sickning.


Mayb FIA should look into this matter or just get one tyre manufacturer in F1.

Mayb testing should be allowed on the resurfaced area for a day 1 month prior to the GP.

As explained in our earlier letter, your teams have a choice of running more slowly in Turn 12/13, running a tyre not used in qualifying (which would attract a penalty) or repeatedly changing a tyre (subject to valid safety reasons).

It is for them to decide. We have nothing to add.

Yours sincerely,

Charlie Whiting
FIA Formula One Race Director

If ever there was cause for a vote of no confidence, then this is it. This Whiting bloke must be off his trolley! What an idiotic suggestion that a "race" driver will ease off during a "race"! Have any of these clowns got a clue?

There's something fishy going on here Whiting!

Kapel wrote:

Graham Ross wrote:

Byron Forbes wrote:There are a lot of good points here, but let's go all the way back.

Back at the Indy 500 Firestone (Bridgestone) became aware of abnormalities at the resurfaced circuit.

This is what I've read before too.

This is sad & sickning.


Mayb FIA should look into this matter or just get one tyre manufacturer in F1.

Mayb testing should be allowed on the resurfaced area for a day 1 month prior to the GP.

Kappy, the FIA could not look into their own piles

So the question is, what is the greatest sporting disgrace in human history?

Even Tyson biting chunks out of Hollyfield's ear in the first round wasn't as bad as this!

Byron Forbes wrote:So the question is, what is the greatest sporting disgrace in human history?

Even Tyson biting chunks out of Hollyfield's ear in the first round wasn't as bad as this!

This, and the OZ first 11 losing to Bangladash

julian mayo wrote:

Byron Forbes wrote:So the question is, what is the greatest sporting disgrace in human history?

Even Tyson biting chunks out of Hollyfield's ear in the first round wasn't as bad as this!

This, and the OZ first 11 losing to Bangladash

I concur.

Kapel wrote:

julian mayo wrote:

Byron Forbes wrote:So the question is, what is the greatest sporting disgrace in human history?

Even Tyson biting chunks out of Hollyfield's ear in the first round wasn't as bad as this!

This, and the OZ first 11 losing to Bangladash

I concur.

And you guys meet Bangadesh when?

julian mayo wrote:

Kapel wrote:

julian mayo wrote:
This, and the OZ first 11 losing to Bangladash

I concur.

And you guys meet Bangadesh when?

I hope not anytime soon

Kapel wrote:

julian mayo wrote:

Kapel wrote:
I concur.

And you guys meet Bangadesh when?

I hope not anytime soon

From Planet-F1.com:
"Race Director Charlie Whiting, Ross Brawn?s drinking buddy released a letter that he got from Michelin with some smart answers as to why they couldn?t use different tyres on Sunday.

But he?s changed the rules for Bridgestone prior to a race so we?ve been here before. It's surprising nobody?s questioned why Whiting changed the tyre rules at the beginning of the 2003 Brazilian GP.

Back in 2003 you were only allowed to take one wet tyre to races, so you had to make your mind up before the event. Bridgestone arrived at Interlagos with their legendary intermediate tyre that was quite good in wet and mixed conditions. Michelin had a full wet that could run in more rain.

When the heavens opened before the race, Whiting delayed the start because the Bridgestone runners wouldn?t have been able to make it round safely. It was clearly Bridgestone?s fault for not bringing a full wet tyre, but as the argument has gone this weekend ? they knew the situation?

After delaying the start the field was then sent round Interlagos behind the Safety Car until enough water was taken off the circuit. Had they released the field when it was suitable for the Michelins on full wets, then Fisichella would never have won the race in his Jordan and Kimi Raikkonen may well have got the win.

Nobody complained because it was a safety issue. Fast forward two years and Whiting is not prepared to compromise in another safety situation. This interpretation of the rules when it suits them makes F1 fans deeply suspicius - it's like there was an agenda here from the FIA."

coronado wrote:From Planet-F1.com:
"Race Director Charlie Whiting, Ross Brawn?s drinking buddy released a letter that he got from Michelin with some smart answers as to why they couldn?t use different tyres on Sunday.

But he?s changed the rules for Bridgestone prior to a race so we?ve been here before. It's surprising nobody?s questioned why Whiting changed the tyre rules at the beginning of the 2003 Brazilian GP.

Back in 2003 you were only allowed to take one wet tyre to races, so you had to make your mind up before the event. Bridgestone arrived at Interlagos with their legendary intermediate tyre that was quite good in wet and mixed conditions. Michelin had a full wet that could run in more rain.

When the heavens opened before the race, Whiting delayed the start because the Bridgestone runners wouldn?t have been able to make it round safely. It was clearly Bridgestone?s fault for not bringing a full wet tyre, but as the argument has gone this weekend ? they knew the situation?

After delaying the start the field was then sent round Interlagos behind the Safety Car until enough water was taken off the circuit. Had they released the field when it was suitable for the Michelins on full wets, then Fisichella would never have won the race in his Jordan and Kimi Raikkonen may well have got the win.

Nobody complained because it was a safety issue. Fast forward two years and Whiting is not prepared to compromise in another safety situation. This interpretation of the rules when it suits them makes F1 fans deeply suspicius - it's like there was an agenda here from the FIA."

coronado wrote:From Planet-F1.com:
"Race Director Charlie Whiting, Ross Brawn?s drinking buddy released a letter that he got from Michelin with some smart answers as to why they couldn?t use different tyres on Sunday.

But he?s changed the rules for Bridgestone prior to a race so we?ve been here before. It's surprising nobody?s questioned why Whiting changed the tyre rules at the beginning of the 2003 Brazilian GP.

Back in 2003 you were only allowed to take one wet tyre to races, so you had to make your mind up before the event. Bridgestone arrived at Interlagos with their legendary intermediate tyre that was quite good in wet and mixed conditions. Michelin had a full wet that could run in more rain.

When the heavens opened before the race, Whiting delayed the start because the Bridgestone runners wouldn?t have been able to make it round safely. It was clearly Bridgestone?s fault for not bringing a full wet tyre, but as the argument has gone this weekend ? they knew the situation?

After delaying the start the field was then sent round Interlagos behind the Safety Car until enough water was taken off the circuit. Had they released the field when it was suitable for the Michelins on full wets, then Fisichella would never have won the race in his Jordan and Kimi Raikkonen may well have got the win.

Nobody complained because it was a safety issue. Fast forward two years and Whiting is not prepared to compromise in another safety situation. This interpretation of the rules when it suits them makes F1 fans deeply suspicius - it's like there was an agenda here from the FIA."

This is sickning