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[humble opinion]

Having reviewed the tape my version of events is as follows;

Everyone gets away cleanly
1. Almost everyone on the dirty side of the track heads straight for the racing line
2. By the time Schumi gets across Alonso already has his nose in front, Schumi straightens.
3. Sweet FA then proceeds to chop left, Schumi forced to take evasive action, both end up heading straight for the apex of the corner, Fisi is closing up on Schumi and also heads straight for the corner.
4. Sweet FA straightens to get a better line into the corner, Schumi straightens a short time after, just as Sweet FA starts turning in
5. Sweet FA holds his line Schumi closes, Schumi turns in and they are both running parallel
6. Sweet FA realises he is about to run into the back of Massa and has to jink to the right to avoid him
7. Schumi comes very close to Massa, locks up briefly to avoid him
8. Sweet FA leaves a lot of room for Fisi

My ever so humble verdict (opinion)
1. Massa was not going slow, he was just taking the normal racing line. I apologise to Felipe, and yes it was Schumi how led me up the garden path on that point.
2. Fisi?s spin is almost entirely of his own making, surpassed only by Pat Symonds spin after the race
3. Fisi?s spin caused the schmozzle, however there was a lot of other shenanigans going on behind the front five that contributed as well
4. Sweet FA?s chop was impressive, if Schumi had done the same manoeuvre ?.. ?
5. T-K if that is spear gunning the fish are safe.
6. Sorry JM I think you are giving the red team far too much credit if you think they are trying to engineer a swap in the middle of all that.

[/humble opinion]

Now, where?s that Wild Turkey ???..

Redhead wrote:[humble opinion]

Having reviewed the tape my version of events is as follows;

Everyone gets away cleanly
1. Almost everyone on the dirty side of the track heads straight for the racing line
2. By the time Schumi gets across Alonso already has his nose in front, Schumi straightens.
3. Sweet FA then proceeds to chop left, Schumi forced to take evasive action, both end up heading straight for the apex of the corner, Fisi is closing up on Schumi and also heads straight for the corner.
4. Sweet FA straightens to get a better line into the corner, Schumi straightens a short time after, just as Sweet FA starts turning in
5. Sweet FA holds his line Schumi closes, Schumi turns in and they are both running parallel
6. Sweet FA realises he is about to run into the back of Massa and has to jink to the right to avoid him
7. Schumi comes very close to Massa, locks up briefly to avoid him
8. Sweet FA leaves a lot of room for Fisi

My ever so humble verdict (opinion)
1. Massa was not going slow, he was just taking the normal racing line. I apologise to Felipe, and yes it was Schumi how led me up the garden path on that point.
2. Fisi?s spin is almost entirely of his own making, surpassed only by Pat Symonds spin after the race
3. Fisi?s spin caused the schmozzle, however there was a lot of other shenanigans going on behind the front five that contributed as well
4. Sweet FA?s chop was impressive, if Schumi had done the same manoeuvre ?.. ?
5. T-K if that is spear gunning the fish are safe.
6. Sorry JM I think you are giving the red team far too much credit if you think they are trying to engineer a swap in the middle of all that.

[/humble opinion]

Now, where?s that Wild Turkey ???..

NP, now drink the WT, n watch the first 3 second of the start..........look for a finger.......
flick out on the left of Massa's cockpit ................

Ed wrote:Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat was introduced as the President of the Turkish Cypriot state on TV. Greece has complained about this. Greece controls the southern part of the island.

We are reporting this as it was announced by the FIA, we have no intention of discussing (or encouraging the discussion of) the Cyprus conflict on these forums.

I read that that matter is under investigation. Let's hope that FIA won't remove Istanbul from the calendar. I think together with Suzuka and Spa, Istanbul is one of the top circuits active today.

gkaytaz wrote:

Ed wrote:Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat was introduced as the President of the Turkish Cypriot state on TV. Greece has complained about this. Greece controls the southern part of the island.

We are reporting this as it was announced by the FIA, we have no intention of discussing (or encouraging the discussion of) the Cyprus conflict on these forums.

I read that that matter is under investigation. Let's hope that FIA won't remove Istanbul from the calendar. I think together with Suzuka and Spa, Istanbul is one of the top circuits active today.

I concur

Julian Mayo wrote:

Redhead wrote:[humble opinion]

Having reviewed the tape my version of events is as follows;

Everyone gets away cleanly
1. Almost everyone on the dirty side of the track heads straight for the racing line
2. By the time Schumi gets across Alonso already has his nose in front, Schumi straightens.
3. Sweet FA then proceeds to chop left, Schumi forced to take evasive action, both end up heading straight for the apex of the corner, Fisi is closing up on Schumi and also heads straight for the corner.
4. Sweet FA straightens to get a better line into the corner, Schumi straightens a short time after, just as Sweet FA starts turning in
5. Sweet FA holds his line Schumi closes, Schumi turns in and they are both running parallel
6. Sweet FA realises he is about to run into the back of Massa and has to jink to the right to avoid him
7. Schumi comes very close to Massa, locks up briefly to avoid him
8. Sweet FA leaves a lot of room for Fisi

My ever so humble verdict (opinion)
1. Massa was not going slow, he was just taking the normal racing line. I apologise to Felipe, and yes it was Schumi how led me up the garden path on that point.
2. Fisi?s spin is almost entirely of his own making, surpassed only by Pat Symonds spin after the race
3. Fisi?s spin caused the schmozzle, however there was a lot of other shenanigans going on behind the front five that contributed as well
4. Sweet FA?s chop was impressive, if Schumi had done the same manoeuvre ?.. ?
5. T-K if that is spear gunning the fish are safe.
6. Sorry JM I think you are giving the red team far too much credit if you think they are trying to engineer a swap in the middle of all that.

[/humble opinion]

Now, where?s that Wild Turkey ???..

NP, now drink the WT, n watch the first 3 second of the start..........look for a finger.......
flick out on the left of Massa's cockpit ................

ok



cant see anything



still cant see anything



wait a minute, theres something ..



You're right theres the finger, but it's very hard to tell whether it's vertical or horizontal

Redhead wrote:
ok



cant see anything



still cant see anything



wait a minute, theres something ..



You're right theres the finger, but it's very hard to tell whether it's vertical or horizontal

Tilt your head about 90 deg

So it's
You go there
I'll cover his line
Fisi's coming to nail you up the inside.

That's a lot of finger pointing.

Redhead wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:

Redhead wrote:[humble opinion]

Having reviewed the tape my version of events is as follows;

Everyone gets away cleanly
1. Almost everyone on the dirty side of the track heads straight for the racing line
2. By the time Schumi gets across Alonso already has his nose in front, Schumi straightens.
3. Sweet FA then proceeds to chop left, Schumi forced to take evasive action, both end up heading straight for the apex of the corner, Fisi is closing up on Schumi and also heads straight for the corner.
4. Sweet FA straightens to get a better line into the corner, Schumi straightens a short time after, just as Sweet FA starts turning in
5. Sweet FA holds his line Schumi closes, Schumi turns in and they are both running parallel
6. Sweet FA realises he is about to run into the back of Massa and has to jink to the right to avoid him
7. Schumi comes very close to Massa, locks up briefly to avoid him
8. Sweet FA leaves a lot of room for Fisi

My ever so humble verdict (opinion)
1. Massa was not going slow, he was just taking the normal racing line. I apologise to Felipe, and yes it was Schumi how led me up the garden path on that point.
2. Fisi?s spin is almost entirely of his own making, surpassed only by Pat Symonds spin after the race
3. Fisi?s spin caused the schmozzle, however there was a lot of other shenanigans going on behind the front five that contributed as well
4. Sweet FA?s chop was impressive, if Schumi had done the same manoeuvre ?.. ?
5. T-K if that is spear gunning the fish are safe.
6. Sorry JM I think you are giving the red team far too much credit if you think they are trying to engineer a swap in the middle of all that.

[/humble opinion]

Now, where?s that Wild Turkey ???..

NP, now drink the WT, n watch the first 3 second of the start..........look for a finger.......
flick out on the left of Massa's cockpit ................

ok



cant see anything



still cant see anything



wait a minute, theres something ..



You're right theres the finger, but it's very hard to tell whether it's vertical or horizontal

Tilt your head 180 degrees

cmlean wrote:So it's
You go there
I'll cover his line
Fisi's coming to nail you up the inside.

That's a lot of finger pointing.

Scummi is used to having a lot of fingers pointed at him. Quite often, they are paired.

Julian Mayo wrote: Scummi is used to having a lot of fingers pointed at him. Quite often, they are paired.

Scummi eh? So, what do you call Massa then? Messy?

gkaytaz wrote:

Ed wrote:Mr. Mehmet Ali Talat was introduced as the President of the Turkish Cypriot state on TV. Greece has complained about this. Greece controls the southern part of the island.

We are reporting this as it was announced by the FIA, we have no intention of discussing (or encouraging the discussion of) the Cyprus conflict on these forums.

I read that that matter is under investigation. Let's hope that FIA won't remove Istanbul from the calendar. I think together with Suzuka and Spa, Istanbul is one of the top circuits active today.

Unfortunately I do not see much of a choice. What happened on the podium is illegal in the eye's of the international community. It's a shame cause it is a great track and produces good racing, but they only have themselves to blame.

Darn!!!! Look what happens when I go missing for a couple of days.

jacfan wrote:Darn!!!! Look what happens when I go missing for a couple of days.

Yeah. So... Don't do that again.

gkaytaz wrote:

jacfan wrote:Darn!!!! Look what happens when I go missing for a couple of days.

Yeah. So... Don't do that again.

Sorry

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