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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:17 pm
by JayVee
julian mayo wrote:I don't like Monaco any more, the cars outgrew it years ago. altho happenings in the tunnel can brighten one's day

I thought the cars are actually thinner
Even though there is no overtaking I enjoy Monaco. Watching those guys driving inches away from the armco is a thrill to watch.
I am looking forward to Renault dominating there!!
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:25 pm
by Julian Mayo
JayVee wrote:julian mayo wrote:I don't like Monaco any more, the cars outgrew it years ago. altho happenings in the tunnel can brighten one's day

I thought the cars are actually thinner
Even though there is no overtaking I enjoy Monaco. Watching those guys driving inches away from the armco is a thrill to watch.
I am looking forward to Renault dominating there!!
You could be very disappointed then. Look out for the Toyotas

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:06 pm
by F1greyhound
Monaco is of course far too narrow, but exciting nevertheless, especially from the onboard camera. It takes highest skills, Qualifying is even more important plus a faultless drive and excellent strategy. This year the tyre issue will be interesting too although I fear the worst for FERRARI.
Altogether I expect a better GP than Barcelona...
A good outsider chance for Ralf, he might be real value at 16/1...

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:24 pm
by Julian Mayo
F1greyhound wrote:Monaco is of course far too narrow, but exciting nevertheless, especially from the onboard camera. It takes highest skills, Qualifying is even more important plus a faultless drive and excellent strategy. This year the tyre issue will be interesting too although I fear the worst for FERRARI.
Altogether I expect a better GP than Barcelona...
A good outsider chance for Ralf, he might be real value at 16/1...

Doesn't Ralf have a nasty habit of sticking it into the barriers at Monaco

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:24 pm
by sgd
Giancarlo Fisichella 12% [ 2 ]

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:02 pm
by Kapel
Trulli or Kimi for Monaco win

..... but its too far off

....
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:11 pm
by Kapel
Just wondering if the cars were stripped after Barcelona, as promised by the FIA

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:54 pm
by F1greyhound
Ralf gets things alright when he feels well in his package. He was faster than Jarno in Barcelona and that will give him more confidence, plus a bit of aggression as it was the team that made Jarno pass him albeit not intentionally...
PS Had this happened at FERRARI(M passing R) we would have had 100 posts on their cheating...
Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:09 pm
by F1greyhound
Oh and Irvines comments cant be left without an answer, this man not only had a limited ability to shine in F1, but whereas he was a decent driver he certainly is not decent at all as a commentator. He is as inferior to Martin Brundle and John Watson in that discipline as he was to MS in the FERRARI

. His comments are unfounded and pretty dumb

, please dont publish his nonsense anymore.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:37 am
by sgd
F1greyhound wrote:Oh and Irvines comments cant be left without an answer, this man not only had a limited ability to shine in F1, but whereas he was a decent driver he certainly is not decent at all as a commentator. He is as inferior to Martin Brundle and John Watson in that discipline as he was to MS in the FERRARI

. His comments are unfounded and pretty dumb

, please dont publish his nonsense anymore.

I quoted Irv yesterday, i think... but now i've found an other version

and i like it better...
"All he had to do was pass him down the inside and ask Alonso the question: Do you want to crash or finish second?" said Irvine.
where is the nonsense?? it's quite logicall, he is too far in points comming 2nd to Alonso doesn't help, gives hi -2 (better for him would be both out...)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:27 am
by alonsofan
kimi was very strong in spain, alonso had problem early in the race and he couldn't keep up, the driver of the race to me was fisichella as he moved into second from sixth then had some problem and made a very long pit but still got back to fifth
f1greyhound, your comment on ferrari isn't in the right place, why ? because ferrari never let michael and rubens fight till the end, only try until the last stop then slow down with toyota they kept fighting until the end so obviously there was nothing by intention!
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:53 am
by Julian Mayo
sgd wrote:F1greyhound wrote:Oh and Irvines comments cant be left without an answer, this man not only had a limited ability to shine in F1, but whereas he was a decent driver he certainly is not decent at all as a commentator. He is as inferior to Martin Brundle and John Watson in that discipline as he was to MS in the FERRARI

. His comments are unfounded and pretty dumb

, please dont publish his nonsense anymore.

I quoted Irv yesterday, i think... but now i've found an other version

and i like it better...
"All he had to do was pass him down the inside and ask Alonso the question: Do you want to crash or finish second?" said Irvine.
where is the nonsense?? it's quite logicall, he is too far in points comming 2nd to Alonso doesn't help, gives hi -2 (better for him would be both out...)
When he was driving, one Oz ex-racer referred to him as "Eddy the idiot"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:24 am
by rah
Irvine is a muppet! His mouth always ran faster than his cars.
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:32 am
by sgd
anyway
"All he had to do was pass him down the inside and ask Alonso the question: Do you want to crash or finish second?"
looks logical... specially from a ex-driver...
and remember about the points, -2 comming 2nd to Alonso, +2 winning, 0 both out....
this time I just have to say that Irv is talking logically. BUT not at all, MS have had bad luck... saying that MS is past it is premature...I think he still could win many races...
but not a WDC till......... 2015??

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:38 am
by rah
MS has already had to apologise to Heidfeld for Melb. I guess he didn't want to take the front runner out of the last couple of laps.
Also consider that it is a long way till the end of the season. While Alonso is a favourite for the WDC at the moment, it's not in the bag yet. MS needs points over all the other drivers, not just Alonso.