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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:04 am
by K-D
sgd wrote:The way Alonso kept MS in such a cool way, no making mistakes under such a pressure only shows that he's champion material!!
that was so GREAT!! i'm very happy for him! a deseved win! =)
excatly the opposite for Button... he's similar to Trulli, thay can do good races but they lack that Champ-factor which Kimi, Alonso Montoya and Shumierda have...
I concur.

8)

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:02 pm
by Ed
Jenson Button's car was under investigation for being underweight at the end of the race. His car was found to be underweight without fuel however after hearing the explanation from the BAR team and reviewing all available documentation the stewards decided no further action to be taken. His 3rd place finish is confirmed

More information here on Ralf's penalty and Jenson's investigation

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:19 am
by Ed
The FIA have announced they will appeal against the Stewards decision to take no further action against Jenson Button's car

The BAR Honda team expressed surprise at the decision but will co-operate fully

The hearing is expected on Wednesday the 4th of May

More

Updates on the appeals will be provide here

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:56 am
by sgd
Ed wrote:The FIA have announced they will appeal against the Stewards decision....
FIA appeal against FIA ... :? :roll: :lol: why that doesn't surprise me?? ... :? :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:58 am
by Julian Mayo
sgd wrote:
Ed wrote:The FIA have announced they will appeal against the Stewards decision....
FIA appeal against FIA ... :? :roll: :lol: why that doesn't surprise me?? ... :? :lol:
In any other sport ie, boxing, horse racing, and in V8 supercars, if you are underweight you are out. I think the stewards stuffed up, and their bosses, the FIA, have now said so :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:50 pm
by Kapel
If button is disqualified,would he be allowed to change his engine without a penalty?? :shock: :?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:02 pm
by Julian Mayo
He better not be, cheats are cheats, are cheats :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :no:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:05 pm
by Bundy
i would hope not, afterall he did still complete the race unscathed

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:13 pm
by Kapel
julian mayo wrote:He better not be, cheats are cheats, are cheats :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :no:
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Since when did u started getting so pissed,Julian?Chill dude!!!

AH,if Button is disqualified,Webber gets a point rgt? :wink:

But i agree,if he's doing something which is not allowed,he should be heavily punished!!!!

Imagine this forum ,if it would have been Michael's car :?: :crush: :crush: :crush:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:18 pm
by Julian Mayo
No, Kapel, if someone, say Button, in this case, is driving an illegal vehicle, and is in a position on the race track, thanks to that illegal vehicle, it affects THE OTHER DRIVERS STRATEGIES, THE OTHER TEAMS STRATEGIES, AND THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE!!!!!! :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:21 pm
by Julian Mayo
Kapel wrote:
julian mayo wrote:He better not be, cheats are cheats, are cheats :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :no:
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Since when did u started getting so pissed,Julian?Chill dude!!!

AH,if Button is disqualified,Webber gets a point rgt? :wink:

But i agree,if he's doing something which is not allowed,he should be heavily punished!!!!

Imagine this forum ,if it would have been Michael's car :?: :crush: :crush: :crush:
kAPPY, mARK WAS IN SUCH A PIG OF A CHASSIS, i'M AMAZED HE FINISHED
Williams doesn,t deserve a point :no:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:29 pm
by Kapel
julian mayo wrote:No, Kapel, if someone, say Button, in this case, is driving an illegal vehicle, and is in a position on the race track, thanks to that illegal vehicle, it affects THE OTHER DRIVERS STRATEGIES, THE OTHER TEAMS STRATEGIES, AND THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE!!!!!! :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
Quite true, actually looking back at the race,if Michael wouldnt have been stuck behind Button,he would have won the race :wink:

Can a team be banned from participating for a few races if their cars are found with irregularities and team personel hidding the truth??? :? :twisted:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:32 pm
by Kapel
julian mayo wrote:kAPPY, mARK WAS IN SUCH A PIG OF A CHASSIS, i'M AMAZED HE FINISHED
Williams doesn,t deserve a point :no:
Not only the Chassis,the engine as well as Webber's mistake(i think 2 or 3) cost them a nice finish. :oops: But Nick didnt do well either :shock:

Season doesnt look good for them :(

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:50 pm
by Julian Mayo
Kapel wrote:
julian mayo wrote:kAPPY, mARK WAS IN SUCH A PIG OF A CHASSIS, i'M AMAZED HE FINISHED
Williams doesn,t deserve a point :no:
Not only the Chassis,the engine as well as Webber's mistake(i think 2 or 3) cost them a nice finish. :oops: But Nick didnt do well either :shock:

Season doesnt look good for them :(
Kappy, in my opinion, what you call mistakes, I call bloody brilliant ability to keep such an evil pig on the black stuff. I f you taped the race, go back and have a look at the in- car film of webber, listen to the engine, and marry that to the hands on wheel before Sato got past. That was 12 tenths! and to me justifies my belief in his ability. Can't wait for the Sauber BMW Williams combo next season. Bundy reckons that Button will be in the same team, and Bundy is not something to take chances with :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:02 pm
by Kapel
Julian,never doubted Webber's talent.N yes taking that position back from Sato was brilliant. :D

I said,its a pity for a good driver to be in a wrong car.
Next year hopefully,BMW-SAUBER-WEBBER combo. ( Narain his partner :wink: )