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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:16 pm
by jacfan
No i do not think that the world revolves around Webber, I do not wait til someone is a champion before giving them my support...unlike most australians.
I hopoe you are not including me in this statement. Although my user name is Jacfan, that came from '96 when Jacques joined F1 and I have continued to support him throughout his lean years. However I am extremely proud of Mark. I met him at one of the Australian GPs before he entered F1 and he seemed a really nice genuine guy. I think Mark is a great driver (regardless of what others think) and I actually don't think he has to prove himself to anyone. Given the right circumstances I think most of the drivers out there are capable of winning a WDC. After all they are supposed to be the very best in their field. I personally don't have a problem with supporting more than one driver.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:19 pm
by JayVee
Julian Mayo wrote:JayVee wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:
JV, every time you seperate somones post, you place everything in it out of context. This is a favourite ruse of yours to make artificial points,while denigrating the original intent of that person's post.
Again you are not an authority to tell me how I should reply.
I know how to reply, I just wish you can reply to everything addessed to you. Ignoring shows weakeness
Then why do you ignore many valid points in many peoples post, and harp on one point, many times?.
Are you weak?
Generalising again !!
It is easy to say something in the hope that someone beleives you. That is what the media is good at.
I am not weak, I have spent the last 2+ hours replying to all the posts. If I were weak I would simply ignore them.
A few days or weeks Kapel mentioned a post asking me why I didn't reply to it, I went back looked for it and replied.
Please show me a post that I was expected to answer and I ignored.
We've had many discussions like this in the past, it is you who choses what to reply to. If that is a refelction of your weakeness, don't try bouncing it off.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:36 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:No i do not think that the world revolves around Webber, I do not wait til someone is a champion before giving them my support...unlike most australians.
I hopoe you are not including me in this statement. Although my user name is Jacfan, that came from '96 when Jacques joined F1 and I have continued to support him throughout his lean years. However I am extremely proud of Mark. I met him at one of the Australian GPs before he entered F1 and he seemed a really nice genuine guy. I think Mark is a great driver (regardless of what others think) and I actually don't think he has to prove himself to anyone. Given the right circumstances I think most of the drivers out there are capable of winning a WDC. After all they are supposed to be the very best in their field. I personally don't have a problem with supporting more than one driver.
NO I was not including you

I know you better than that.
Gotta go get the kids I will be back to reply to you n others soon, Geez < haven't had this much fun since I was married

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:41 pm
by jacfan
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:54 pm
by JayVee
jacfan wrote:No i do not think that the world revolves around Webber, I do not wait til someone is a champion before giving them my support...unlike most australians.
I hopoe you are not including me in this statement. Although my user name is Jacfan, that came from '96 when Jacques joined F1 and I have continued to support him throughout his lean years. However I am extremely proud of Mark. I met him at one of the Australian GPs before he entered F1 and he seemed a really nice genuine guy. I think Mark is a great driver (regardless of what others think) and I actually don't think he has to prove himself to anyone. Given the right circumstances I think most of the drivers out there are capable of winning a WDC. After all they are supposed to be the very best in their field. I personally don't have a problem with supporting more than one driver.
Jacfan, me and Julian had many discussions about this in the past, several times he accused me of dumping Villeneuve in favour of Alonso. On several occassions I explained to him my position yet since he has nothing else to argue with, he brings this up again.
I support both Villeneuve and Alonso but for some reason Julian has a problem with that.
As you are relatively new here, I thought I'd let you know.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:59 pm
by jacfan
Thanks JayVee.

I don't have a problem with that. I had guessed that you used to support JV but were now an Alonso fan. Nice to know you still regard JV as a great guy and driver.
I hope Alonso can win the title again this year.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:02 pm
by jacfan
Actually I have been in the tipping part of this site for a long time, but only looked at and joined the boards this year. If member numbers go in order of when you joined then I was among the first 200 to join the tipping.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:26 pm
by rah
goooosfraba, peace people. This is just a forum for peoples opinions about how rich companies spend their money going around in circles as fast as they can.
Lets just remember that before getting agro at each other.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:30 pm
by rah
Just for interest sake, does someone know who posted the fastest lap time?
And just for chuckles sake, who got the second fastest lap time. I have hear who it was but that is unbelieveable and I do not want to sound like a fool (well more like one) if I am wrong.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:41 pm
by Kapel
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:32 pm
by Kapel
JayVee wrote:
Kapel stop generalising, you say anyone, who is anyone

Who did a mistake and got scot free ?
JayVee,the arguement here is not about getting scot free from the stewards.Dont u read the context of the quote before u answer?
Its about,not getting ripped to threads here in this forum!!!
Never have i seen u say anything so nasty about any driver on the grid for the same mistake done as Michael
But thats u..

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:49 pm
by Kapel
JayVee wrote:
You make it sound as if Alonso is the first to do such a move. Brake testing always happens in racing. Nothing to do with being Champ or not.
Exactly JayVee.Everyone does.So will Alonso & probably even worse things.So stop

abt ur driver being the honest & fair driver on planet f1.He has just started to do things which every1 did..Be fair in critisicm,dont have the heart to say anything against him do u?
JayVee wrote:
You are the one who is complaining that no one mentioned this incident. If he got a fair penalty what is there to complain about ?
Yes i would,cos Michael wouldnt have got scot free with this by u.
JayVee wrote:

Many drivers have done that in the past and many will in the future. Lets hope they all get penalised and no one gets away with it.
They will get penalised,& they should be.Lets see if they get thrashed in this forum,if they r ppl's fav driver

I doubt it.
JayVee wrote:
You just love conspiracies don't you.
Just like your driver, you can't accept he made a mistake. It was all in his hands, he could have slowed down but be didn't. He was in the wrong. End of story.
As for tactical, well Michael passed 2 cars under the red flag. Enough said
JayVee,dont say things for what u dont know..chk my race post & then reply.
Do u read my post on tactical???Oh forget it...
U cannot accept ur driver made a mistake(dont have the guts to critisize him for his mistake & say that every1 does it) ,ruined his race & chance for a victory,thats y u just wanna glorify his performance for self satisfaction making his the rainmaster

...sorry without winning races in wets consistently no1 gets that tag
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:50 pm
by Julian Mayo
Always.

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:52 pm
by Kapel
JayVee wrote:
You make it sound as if Alonso is the first to do such a move. Brake testing always happens in racing. Nothing to do with being Champ or not.
Exactly JayVee.Everyone does.So will Alonso & probably even worse things.So stop

abt ur driver being the honest & fair driver on planet f1.He has just started to do things which every1 did..Be fair in critisicm,dont have the heart to say anything against him do u?
JayVee wrote:
You are the one who is complaining that no one mentioned this incident. If he got a fair penalty what is there to complain about ?
Yes i would,cos Michael wouldnt have got scot free with this by u.
JayVee wrote:

Many drivers have done that in the past and many will in the future. Lets hope they all get penalised and no one gets away with it.
They will get penalised,& they should be.Lets see if they get thrashed in this forum,if they r ppl's fav driver

I doubt it.
JayVee wrote:
You just love conspiracies don't you.
Just like your driver, you can't accept he made a mistake. It was all in his hands, he could have slowed down but be didn't. He was in the wrong. End of story.
As for tactical, well Michael passed 2 cars under the red flag. Enough said
JayVee,dont say things for what u dont know..chk my race post & then reply.
Do u read my post on tactical???Oh forget it...
U cannot accept ur driver made a mistake(dont have the guts to critisize him for his mistake & say that every1 does it) ,ruined his race & chance for a victory,thats y u just wanna glorify his performance for self satisfaction making his the rainmaster

...sorry without winning races in wets consistently no1 gets that tag
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:52 pm
by JayVee
Kapel wrote:JayVee wrote:
Kapel stop generalising, you say anyone, who is anyone

Who did a mistake and got scot free ?
JayVee,the arguement here is not about getting scot free from the stewards.Dont u read the context of the quote before u answer?
Its about,not getting ripped to threads here in this forum!!!
Never have i seen u say anything so nasty about any driver on the grid for the same mistake done as Michael
But thats u..

Kapel, you are starting to sound like Julian ...... you are the authority too ?
First name one driver who has done anything as mean and nasty as your driver ?
Plus, your driver is a multi-repeat offender, he should actually be stripped off his license and banned