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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:56 pm
by F1-NUT
Julian Mayo wrote:JayVee wrote:Perhaps Julian doesn't know what the meaning of fact is as he seems to plaster that word everywhere.
Go look it up Julian, it is no good staying quiet and not proving those facts.
Au contraire Mmslle, I know the meaning well. I also understand meaningful, logical discussion.
I also, when someone tells me to keep quiet...tells me, no less...can argue with the most illogical, irrational of them all, using their own tactics.
As you posted to Jim Watt some time ago, you don't post much these days, because there are not enough arguments.
Today, I have gone to great lengths to rectify that for you.
I awwait my rewards with relish, if not on earth........then wherever
I've been following this discussion with interest and it seems to me, Mayo, that reagrdless of the topic, you do as good line in accusation and comment, of which none of it you have substantiated. You have no idea about 'meaningful, logical discussion', although yiou seem to think that just saying that somehow makes it true. It don't!
Jayvee is right - just sticking 'fact' after a statement means jackshit. Get the quotes to back it up, otherwise it's meaningless. And to make a further point, just because you read something in a magazine, doesn't make it 'fact' either, but you can find the relevant part and quote it. Just saying you read it is about as pathetic an argument as you can get...you might as well say, 'a bloke told me down the pub'. Laughable.
Get your quotes to support your argument, with links so we can all see them and post them back here. If you post anything else (like that drivel above) we will know that there are no quotes, that nothing you have said is based on fact and that you are wrong, and you should apologise
Oh by the way, having a go at me, and trying to divert this discussion away from your unstantiated comments will not wash. I'm not responding till you either support your argument properly or apologise for trying to blacken another forum member's name.
In conclusion:
What I'm trying to say, Mayo, is either put up or shut up.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:11 pm
by Julian Mayo
F1-NUT wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:JayVee wrote:Perhaps Julian doesn't know what the meaning of fact is as he seems to plaster that word everywhere.
Go look it up Julian, it is no good staying quiet and not proving those facts.
Au contraire Mmslle, I know the meaning well. I also understand meaningful, logical discussion.
I also, when someone tells me to keep quiet...tells me, no less...can argue with the most illogical, irrational of them all, using their own tactics.
As you posted to Jim Watt some time ago, you don't post much these days, because there are not enough arguments.
Today, I have gone to great lengths to rectify that for you.
I awwait my rewards with relish, if not on earth........then wherever
I've been following this discussion with interest and it seems to me, Mayo, that reagrdless of the topic, you do as good line in accusation and comment, of which none of it you have substantiated. You have no idea about 'meaningful, logical discussion', although yiou seem to think that just saying that somehow makes it true. It don't!
Jayvee is right - just sticking 'fact' after a statement means jackshit. Get the quotes to back it up, otherwise it's meaningless. And to make a further point, just because you read something in a magazine, doesn't make it 'fact' either, but you can find the relevant part and quote it. Just saying you read it is about as pathetic an argument as you can get...you might as well say, 'a bloke told me down the pub'. Laughable.
Get your quotes to support your argument, with links so we can all see them and post them back here. If you post anything else (like that drivel above) we will know that there are no quotes, that nothing you have said is based on fact and that you are wrong, and you should apologise
Oh by the way, having a go at me, and trying to divert this discussion away from your unstantiated comments will not wash. I'm not responding till you either support your argument properly or apologise for trying to blacken another forum member's name.
In conclusion:
What I'm trying to say, Mayo, is either put up or shut up.
go back over the last 2 years of forum dicussion between JayVee n myself before you make a complete and utter fool of yourself.
It is notable that in every argument JayVee creates, you come screaming in with afterburners on, after she has done the hard graft
my name is Julian, or Mr Mayo, take your pick nut
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:51 pm
by jacfan
Well I'll be fact!!! When I first joined these boards a few months ago, little did I know of the fighting and bitching that went on. Why is everyone having a go at Julian?????
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:01 pm
by Julian Mayo
jacfan wrote:Well I'll be fact!!! When I first joined these boards a few months ago, little did I know of the fighting and bitching that went on. Why is everyone having a go at Julian?????
Cos they can
n while they are, they are leaving some other poor bugga alone
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:22 pm
by Julian Mayo
F1-NUT wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:JayVee wrote:Perhaps Julian doesn't know what the meaning of fact is as he seems to plaster that word everywhere.
Go look it up Julian, it is no good staying quiet and not proving those facts.
Au contraire Mmslle, I know the meaning well. I also understand meaningful, logical discussion.
I also, when someone tells me to keep quiet...tells me, no less...can argue with the most illogical, irrational of them all, using their own tactics.
As you posted to Jim Watt some time ago, you don't post much these days, because there are not enough arguments.
Today, I have gone to great lengths to rectify that for you.
I awwait my rewards with relish, if not on earth........then wherever
I've been following this discussion with interest and it seems to me, Mayo, that reagrdless of the topic, you do as good line in accusation and comment, of which none of it you have substantiated. You have no idea about 'meaningful, logical discussion', although yiou seem to think that just saying that somehow makes it true. It don't!
Jayvee is right - just sticking 'fact' after a statement means jackshit. Get the quotes to back it up, otherwise it's meaningless. And to make a further point, just because you read something in a magazine, doesn't make it 'fact' either, but you can find the relevant part and quote it. Just saying you read it is about as pathetic an argument as you can get...you might as well say, 'a bloke told me down the pub'. Laughable.
Get your quotes to support your argument, with links so we can all see them and post them back here. If you post anything else (like that drivel above) we will know that there are no quotes, that nothing you have said is based on fact and that you are wrong, and you should apologise
Oh by the way, having a go at me, and trying to divert this discussion away from your unstantiated comments will not wash. I'm not responding till you either support your argument properly or apologise for trying to blacken another forum member's name.
In conclusion:
What I'm trying to say, Mayo, is either put up or shut up.
You will be a long time waiting.
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:36 pm
by Snowy
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:15 pm
by GhoGho
I'm with Snowy
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:24 pm
by jacfan
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:27 pm
by GhoGho
Its a big wabbit, he can take it
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:31 pm
by Julian Mayo
GhoGho wrote:
Its a big wabbit, he can take it
OOOH, call the RSPCA
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:27 am
by JayVee
F1-NUT wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:JayVee wrote:Perhaps Julian doesn't know what the meaning of fact is as he seems to plaster that word everywhere.
Go look it up Julian, it is no good staying quiet and not proving those facts.
Au contraire Mmslle, I know the meaning well. I also understand meaningful, logical discussion.
I also, when someone tells me to keep quiet...tells me, no less...can argue with the most illogical, irrational of them all, using their own tactics.
As you posted to Jim Watt some time ago, you don't post much these days, because there are not enough arguments.
Today, I have gone to great lengths to rectify that for you.
I awwait my rewards with relish, if not on earth........then wherever
I've been following this discussion with interest and it seems to me, Mayo, that reagrdless of the topic, you do as good line in accusation and comment, of which none of it you have substantiated. You have no idea about 'meaningful, logical discussion', although yiou seem to think that just saying that somehow makes it true. It don't!
Jayvee is right - just sticking 'fact' after a statement means jackshit. Get the quotes to back it up, otherwise it's meaningless. And to make a further point, just because you read something in a magazine, doesn't make it 'fact' either, but you can find the relevant part and quote it. Just saying you read it is about as pathetic an argument as you can get...you might as well say, 'a bloke told me down the pub'. Laughable.
Get your quotes to support your argument, with links so we can all see them and post them back here. If you post anything else (like that drivel above) we will know that there are no quotes, that nothing you have said is based on fact and that you are wrong, and you should apologise
Oh by the way, having a go at me, and trying to divert this discussion away from your unstantiated comments will not wash. I'm not responding till you either support your argument properly or apologise for trying to blacken another forum member's name.
In conclusion:
What I'm trying to say, Mayo, is either put up or shut up.
Thanks F1-NUT, at least someone has the courage to tell Julian how wrong he is.
Don't worry, Julian can never blacken my name. By stating facts that are obviously rubbish he is only backening his name.
I pay particular attention to facts and do not lower myself to a level when I say something and just claim it is a fact just to wind someone up.
Thanks again
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:31 am
by JayVee
Julian Mayo wrote:F1-NUT wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:
Au contraire Mmslle, I know the meaning well. I also understand meaningful, logical discussion.
I also, when someone tells me to keep quiet...tells me, no less...can argue with the most illogical, irrational of them all, using their own tactics.
As you posted to Jim Watt some time ago, you don't post much these days, because there are not enough arguments.
Today, I have gone to great lengths to rectify that for you.
I awwait my rewards with relish, if not on earth........then wherever
I've been following this discussion with interest and it seems to me, Mayo, that reagrdless of the topic, you do as good line in accusation and comment, of which none of it you have substantiated. You have no idea about 'meaningful, logical discussion', although yiou seem to think that just saying that somehow makes it true. It don't!
Jayvee is right - just sticking 'fact' after a statement means jackshit. Get the quotes to back it up, otherwise it's meaningless. And to make a further point, just because you read something in a magazine, doesn't make it 'fact' either, but you can find the relevant part and quote it. Just saying you read it is about as pathetic an argument as you can get...you might as well say, 'a bloke told me down the pub'. Laughable.
Get your quotes to support your argument, with links so we can all see them and post them back here. If you post anything else (like that drivel above) we will know that there are no quotes, that nothing you have said is based on fact and that you are wrong, and you should apologise
Oh by the way, having a go at me, and trying to divert this discussion away from your unstantiated comments will not wash. I'm not responding till you either support your argument properly or apologise for trying to blacken another forum member's name.
In conclusion:
What I'm trying to say, Mayo, is either put up or shut up.
go back over the last 2 years of forum dicussion between JayVee n myself before you make a complete and utter fool of yourself.
It is notable that in every argument JayVee creates, you come screaming in with afterburners on, after she has done the hard graft
my name is Julian, or Mr Mayo, take your pick nut
It is you who is making a fool out of himself Julian. Yes we had discussions in the past and yes you always try to duck and weave and disown some of the statements you made.
And once again you are trying to skew facts. When did F1-NUT come screaming with afterburners in an argument I had with you. When you say every argument there should be heaps of examples. Please show me an example
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:44 am
by JayVee
Oh and just to make sure I remind you of the "so called" facts of yours, here they are again waiting for proof that they are fact or if you keep ignoring them it will show that you are the type that is willing to make false statements and label them as facts.
Julian Mayo wrote:
Last year you stated that you thought klien had the goods on Webber in the '04
. Fact
Point me to where I said so
Julian Mayo wrote:Last year you stated that Heidfield would trounce Webber
Fact
Heidfield outscored Webber thru Webber retiring with mechanical failure more.
Fact.
This should be easy, lookup your "multiple" sources and check for yourself and see who had more mechanical failures.
Julian Mayo wrote:A number of journalists have said that Briatore will not put Webber in Renault, while Briatore is there.
Fact
You keep saying this but it doesn't wash. Alonso is also managed by Briatore and he is at Renault, Kovalainen is expected at Renault and he is managed by Briatore.
Julian Mayo wrote:You have consistantly denigrated Webber.
Fact.
Absolute lie. Point me to a post where I denigrated Webber. I respect Webber but I don't rate him as World Championship material just yet and that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:31 pm
by jacfan
I agree that you are entitled to your opinion and I believe that Julian shouild also be entitled to his opinion.
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:00 pm
by Bundy
jacfan wrote:I agree that you are entitled to your opinion and I believe that Julian shouild also be entitled to his opinion.
Thats the problem with opinions....Everybody thinks theirs is right!!
Just have a look at politics. All the protests/TV ads over the war in Iraq/Afghanistan and IR are all because people have different opinions to the people elected to run the country.
There is nothing wrong with heated discussion. At the end of the day time will prove one of them right. It just may not be the person you think is right.
