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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:59 am
by sgd
rah wrote:MS has already had to apologise to Heidfeld for Melb. I guess he didn't want to take the front runner out of the last couple of laps.
Also consider that it is a long way till the end of the season. While Alonso is a favourite for the WDC at the moment, it's not in the bag yet. MS needs points over all the other drivers, not just Alonso.
yeah, but... Irv also said MS would do it (overtake) some years ego...what do u think?
1 think was for me clear after that... MShumierda saying that he had nothing to lose ans Alonso had and

was (is) a lot of
But the time to really risk will come... i hope!!

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:20 am
by rah
I think MS was just trying to psyche the other drivers a bit. The only time a driver has nothing to lose is when he can no longer win the WDC or the WCC.
Personally I think that Alonso covered his line too well, an MS could not overtake. I also think that Irvine is talking about someone who totally eclipses him in skill.
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:46 am
by Julian Mayo
rah wrote:Irvine is a muppet! His mouth always ran faster than his cars.
The muppets would take offence to having Eddy descrbed as one of them

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:49 am
by JayVee
sgd wrote:where is the nonsense?? it's quite logicall, he is too far in points comming 2nd to Alonso doesn't help, gives hi -2 (better for him would be both out...)
One flaw in your logic is what if Michael tried and ended up in the gravel and Alonso wasn't out and won. That would be -10
Very possible, we've seen Michael lose out in the past
Anyway The Cute out psyched him all weekend in Imola
Michael will continue to struggle. With the kind of results he's got so far, there is less and less confidence in pushing as he won't know what the next problem will be!
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:11 am
by Julian Mayo
JayVee wrote:sgd wrote:where is the nonsense?? it's quite logicall, he is too far in points comming 2nd to Alonso doesn't help, gives hi -2 (better for him would be both out...)
One flaw in your logic is what if Michael tried and ended up in the gravel and Alonso wasn't out and won. That would be -10
Very possible, we've seen Michael lose out in the past
Anyway The Cute out psyched him all weekend in Imola
Michael will continue to struggle. With the kind of results he's got so far, there is less and less confidence in pushing as he won't know what the next problem will be!
Totally, completely, absolutely, fundamentally, biased comment.
which is true on this occasion 
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:27 pm
by rah
I think you will that Ferrari will come back. They may not win the WDC, but they come back.
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:56 pm
by Julian Mayo
rah wrote:I think you will that Ferrari will come back. They may not win the WDC, but they come back.
I agree RAH. Many many threads ago, I said the same and was laughed off the thread by some of the non-tifosi, I stiil believe that they have too many skilled people, and too many resources not to. One things for sure, they will get maximum help from Signor Moseley

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:52 pm
by Graham Ross
Yes they came back in Imola then they went away
They'll come back at cold and/or wet tracks. On sunny days they have no chance
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:30 pm
by Kapel
I agree with you Graham,Ferrari will dominate if the track temp is 19-20,but bridgestone would melt in heat
Wets yes they would runaway,but how many races do we have in wets anyways,max 2??
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:50 pm
by Julian Mayo
I will bet 10, yes 10 roubles, that ferrari win a race this season, with the track temp above 25, in the dry,....unless schuey retires at Monac, along with JV

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:51 pm
by Kapel
Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:10 pm
by Julian Mayo
No, it was not Monaco I had in mind

Monaco could be the race where a surprise winner gets up, but I don't think it will be schuey

. What I said had no specific race in mind

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:15 pm
by Kapel
Point taken Julian!!
It was take a great miraculous effort for bridgestone to turn things around.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:31 pm
by Julian Mayo
Kapel wrote:Point taken Julian!!
It was take a great miraculous effort for bridgestone to turn things around.

I don't know about that, Kappy
They almost turned schuey" around" at Imola

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:43 pm
by Kapel
julian mayo wrote:Kapel wrote:Point taken Julian!!
It was take a great miraculous effort for bridgestone to turn things around.

I don't know about that, Kappy
They almost turned schuey" around" at Imola

They alomost did,but almost ...track temp also suited them.But yes,2003 Monza memories are still fresh with me

.My only concern is the season is almost over for them
