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Redhead wrote:You and RE30B#16 have a couple of things in common, you both have favourite words, yours is "dirty", his is "rubbish", and you both read things into my post that aren't there.

You got it wrong again, Redhead! My favorite word is "flibbertygibbet."


PS: We read exactly what you wrote.

RE30B#16 wrote:PS: We read exactly what you wrote.

Yes REB30B#16, you and Jayvee are right and I am so wrong.

I wrote,

Redhead wrote:you both make smug comments implying I said the only reason he is WDC is because of the car, I don't believe that and I never said it, and I am sure when FA has done 16 seaons he will have one of the best records around.

And until you both pointed it out to me I didnt realise that actually meant

Redhead(+truth serum)l wrote: The only reason he is WDC is because of the car, this is what I believe and have always said, and I doubt we will ever hear his name again after this weekend

And I am so sorry that i have been insulting and emotional, I think it might about the third time RE30B#16 described my original post as "rubbish" that I realised how emotional I was becoming.

All because I was so errant in suggesting that there might be a little gap in FA's CV. And please don't bother pointing out to me that someone his age cant possibly have full CV, I may look stupid, but i'm sorry to inform you, I'm not. If you two are so paranoid about having anything other than lovely nice things said about FA then I'm sorry, you are always going to have trouble with my posts.

However I am proud to have contributed to your vocabulary, you both looked up the work "selective" learned how to spell it, and both felt so upset by it you thought if you put it in a sentence and direct it at me so I would be upset too.

Now, before I drown in my own tidal wave of sarcasm. if either or preferably both of you are capable of accepting that I never thought, said, or meant to imply, that FA's WDC was only due to his car then I will call it quits.

As an indicator of my sincerity I am prepared to admit that yes, JayVee, I misread your post re the comparison, the sentence in its entirety does make sense.

kisses,
CW

Dinner was superb thank you, you never would have thought a sprinkle of freshly ground pepper and grated cheese could turn baked beans on toast into such a tour de force.

Redhead wrote:

RE30B#16 wrote:PS: We read exactly what you wrote.

Yes REB30B#16, you and Jayvee are right and I am so wrong.

I wrote,

Redhead wrote:you both make smug comments implying I said the only reason he is WDC is because of the car, I don't believe that and I never said it, and I am sure when FA has done 16 seaons he will have one of the best records around.

And until you both pointed it out to me I didnt realise that actually meant

Redhead(+truth serum)l wrote: The only reason he is WDC is because of the car, this is what I believe and have always said, and I doubt we will ever hear his name again after this weekend

And I am so sorry that i have been insulting and emotional, I think it might about the third time RE30B#16 described my original post as "rubbish" that I realised how emotional I was becoming.

All because I was so errant in suggesting that there might be a little gap in FA's CV. And please don't bother pointing out to me that someone his age cant possibly have full CV, I may look stupid, but i'm sorry to inform you, I'm not. If you two are so paranoid about having anything other than lovely nice things said about FA then I'm sorry, you are always going to have trouble with my posts.

However I am proud to have contributed to your vocabulary, you both looked up the work "selective" learned how to spell it, and both felt so upset by it you thought if you put it in a sentence and direct it at me so I would be upset too.

Now, before I drown in my own tidal wave of sarcasm. if either or preferably both of you are capable of accepting that I never thought, said, or meant to imply, that FA's WDC was only due to his car then I will call it quits.

As an indicator of my sincerity I am prepared to admit that yes, JayVee, I misread your post re the comparison, the sentence in its entirety does make sense.

kisses,
CW

Dinner was superb thank you, you never would have thought a sprinkle of freshly ground pepper and grated cheese could turn baked beans on toast into such a tour de force.

Welcome to the "I have been selectively quoted, and interpreted by JayVee Club"
My meal was
"frustration on dry toast" entree
Rage Rattatoui
Sarcasm Sorbet

I'm ready to let this go, but I want to clear up a few points first. Please read on:

Redhead wrote:And I am so sorry that i have been insulting and emotional, I think it might about the third time RE30B#16 described my original post as "rubbish" that I realised how emotional I was becoming.

Actually, Redhead, I used the word "rubbish" twice in the same paragraph in one post, and I was not using it to describe your original post. Here's what I said:

When Schumacher won his first 2 championships for Benetton, everyone said he did it in a car that was inferior. That was rubbish then, and to suggest Alonso has yet to prove himself as equal in talent to Michael Schumacher, who is talented but not the most talented driver I've ever seen, is equally rubbish.

This remark wasn't specifically directed at you, but I guess the shoe fit.

Redhead wrote:Now, before I drown in my own tidal wave of sarcasm. if either or preferably both of you are capable of accepting that I never thought, said, or meant to imply, that FA's WDC was only due to his car then I will call it quits.

I don't think either JayVee or I meant to suggest you were saying FA's WDC was due to the car. I was objecting to your implication that FA had yet to prove himself as a top talent. This was triggered by this remark you made:

Redhead wrote:we have yet to see FA get results in a car that he shouldnt, win races that he shouldnt have. This is a quality that MS has demonstrated on many occasions, and provide some of my enduring memories of recent F1 years (in all its limitations). Im not saying that FA is not capable of this, but I have yet to see it.

Ultimately, I was asking you the question, "what else do you need to see?" You never addressed or explained this remark in any of your responses, yet this is the very remark we took acception to. That is why I kept harping on it. I find it hard sometimes to understand why some F1 fans (not necessarily you) will wax poetic about the unbelievable talents of, for instance, Kimi Raikkonen, yet want to act as if the jury is still out in deciding whether or not the soon-to-be-crowned-two-time WC Fernando Alonso is of equal talent. A lot of pundits do this. This gets my emotions going.

Dinner was superb thank you, you never would have thought a sprinkle of freshly ground pepper and grated cheese could turn baked beans on toast into such a tour de force.

Ya know, I'm gonna have to try that! It sounds yummy!

I do agree with you, however that we have gone back and forth on this issue long enough, so I am ready to kiss and makeup.

kisses,
CW

Be careful! I think I told you once before how much I love redheads!

Dinner was superb thank you, you never would have thought a sprinkle of freshly ground pepper and grated cheese could turn baked beans on toast into such a tour de force.

Sounds yummy!! Might have to try that myself.

Redhead,

I never stated nor implied that you thought Alonso's Championship was only due to his car. Frankly anyone who really thinks that is just fooling themself.

But look back at what got us here Redhead, remember that you barged into this thread defending F1greyhound for stating a fact that was wrong and misleading. You described me as one dimensional and you claimed that your driver despite his "black marks" is highly respected and has demonstrated qualities that Alonso has yet to show.

That is your opinion but I put my opinion across highlighting numerous cases where Alonso (despite his yopung career) has delivered results his car shouldn't and also stating that whatever your driver does, his dirty tricks and team preference will never make him a great in my opinion.

You can say what you like about Alonso, if I don't like it, I'll say it, I enjoy these discussions

But you can't hide these facts:
Youngest driver to win Pole
Youngest driver to win a race
Youngest driver to win a championship
Comprehinsevly beaten his highly regarded teammates
Moves to another team regardless of his future teammate
Youngest double world champion (this is not a fact but a prediction )

May we have a close championship
(in 2007 )

jacfan wrote:

Dinner was superb thank you, you never would have thought a sprinkle of freshly ground pepper and grated cheese could turn baked beans on toast into such a tour de force.

Sounds yummy!! Might have to try that myself.

sick puppy

[quote="JayVee"]Redhead,

remember that you barged into this thread

Oh and one more thing Redhead,

What is your definition of "a truly great driver" ?
And when a driver gets results in car that shouldn't, what would they become ?

barge: To intrude or interrupt, especially rudely

JayVee wrote:barge: To intrude or interrupt, especially rudely

Sorry, I thought it was an open forum.

Forum : a place for open discussion

jacfan wrote:

............sook.......

Yep