Ferrari vs RedBull

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:25 pm

so...
Who will be in front n Bahrein??

1.Ferrari
2.RedBull
3.too close to call

and comments....

K-D · Post by **K-D** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:45 pm

Depends on which car Ferrri brings, and what you define/mean as "in front".

So many answers:

1) If Ferrari bring the F2005 they will outqualify both Red Bull's, with both Ferrari's.

2) If Ferrari bring the F2004M Red Bull could place one or both cars in from of one of the Ferrari's on the grid.

3) In the race with all it's variables a non-finish will change the outcome but if Ferrari bring the F2005 I expect that they will both finish in front of both Red Bull cars.

4) In the race with all it's variables a non-finish will chnage the outcome but if Ferrari bring the F2004M I expect that it will split with a Ferrari in front of a Red Bull in front of a Ferrari in fron of Red Bull.

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:38 pm

to be in front I mean in the race, don't complicate it too much... accidents don't count here so it's useless to talk about final race positions. if for example Klien was 6 and MS 9 and was clear (speed+tactic) that Klien was in fact ahead, but then Klien crash... I'd say that RedBull was in front, if a ferrari was ahead of both RedBull (or vicevsersa) so ferrari is in front... etc... it's just your feeelinga bout who (wich team) would be score more poins (or better positions) in case of a race without accidents or similar incidents (punctures, etc...)
if you see it too complicated select "too close to call" and comment it...
ok? =)

(why RedBull and Ferrari? because of Malaysia...)

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:41 pm

I'd say too close to call (Is it election time again

)

Must admit that not in my wildest dreams had I thought we'll even think about such a question a month ago

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:41 pm

I thing RB will be faster, the 2004M is slower and the I don't expect first race of the F2005 to be a RB-beater one...

alonsofan · Post by **alonsofan** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:34 pm

bahrain will not be as hot as malaysia so ferrari will be better, i think they will be behind renault and mclaren only

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:32 am

alonsofan wrote:bahrain will not be as hot as malaysia...

How do you know that? As i was informed Bahrain is as hot as Malaysia, the difference is the much lower humidity... isn't it?

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:54 pm

sgd wrote:How do you know that? As i was informed Bahrain is as hot as Malaysia, the difference is the much lower humidity... isn't it?

It actually depends if there are sand storms or not. If the skys are clear then it would be nearly as hot.
Last year I was there and it actually rained on our way to the track on Sunday, it was wierd actually because everyone was saying this is the event that will never have a wet race!

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:14 pm

Maybe you are a rainmaker JV.! (don't live in Melbourne do you?)

Da style · Post by **Da style** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:33 pm

Well I think that ferrari is heaps faster than red bull the pressure on red bull is to much for them to handle espicially when two ferraris will be infront on the grid.......haha!!!!!!!!!!!

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:52 pm

And then da style woke up and realized,....yes, he was only dreaming

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:03 pm

julian mayo wrote:Maybe you are a rainmaker JV.! (don't live in Melbourne do you?)

No

I live in the most beautiful city in the world

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:45 am

About what alonsofan said on the tyres in Bahrain... I have two quotes...:
Martin Whitmarsh, CEO, Team McLaren Mercedes:

"In terms of operating conditions, Bahrain is similar to Sepang because it features high track temperatures, abrasive asphalt and is 'rear limited' in terms of tyre performance.

Geoffrey Willis, Technical Director BAR:

"We can expect Bahrain to be almost as hot as the previous round and the high track temperatures will make looking after the tyres a critical element during the race."

So for ferrari will be important the pace he F2005 can bring

and new compounds from Bridgestone... But as I said i don't expect them to be radical better then in Malaysia (yet).

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:20 am

G, day JV, how's the weather in Auckland

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:06 am

Although Ferrari (MS)was faster than RB (DC), but: First, reliability is as important as speed in F1.... and 2nd, the ferrari which last the whole race was actually after all SLOWER than the RB1 in a race distance... so the 50% wich said RB was gonna be in front "won" the POLL!! congratulations!!

For those who saw the F2005 winning in its first race, which such a poor test-record:

sorry.

the poll turned to be real as the RB1 and the F2005 ended the race very close!! still the RB1 put the F2005 out of the points... back in the dust.
Wait more POLLS for Imola!!!

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