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Ferrari vs RedBull
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:25 pm
by sgd
so...
Who will be in front n Bahrein??
1.Ferrari
2.RedBull
3.too close to call
and comments....

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:45 pm
by K-D
Depends on which car Ferrri brings, and what you define/mean as "in front".
So many answers:
1) If Ferrari bring the F2005 they will outqualify both Red Bull's, with both Ferrari's.
2) If Ferrari bring the F2004M Red Bull could place one or both cars in from of one of the Ferrari's on the grid.
3) In the race with all it's variables a non-finish will change the outcome but if Ferrari bring the F2005 I expect that they will both finish in front of both Red Bull cars.
4) In the race with all it's variables a non-finish will chnage the outcome but if Ferrari bring the F2004M I expect that it will split with a Ferrari in front of a Red Bull in front of a Ferrari in fron of Red Bull.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:38 pm
by sgd
to be in front I mean in the race, don't complicate it too much... accidents don't count here so it's useless to talk about final race positions. if for example Klien was 6 and MS 9 and was clear (speed+tactic) that Klien was in fact ahead, but then Klien crash... I'd say that RedBull was in front, if a ferrari was ahead of both RedBull (or vicevsersa) so ferrari is in front... etc... it's just your feeelinga bout who (wich team) would be score more poins (or better positions) in case of a race without accidents or similar incidents (punctures, etc...)
if you see it too complicated select "too close to call" and comment it...
ok? =)
(why RedBull and Ferrari? because of Malaysia...)
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:41 pm
by JayVee
I'd say too close to call (Is it election time again

)
Must admit that not in my wildest dreams had I thought we'll even think about such a question a month ago

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:41 pm
by sgd
I thing RB will be faster, the 2004M is slower and the I don't expect first race of the F2005 to be a RB-beater one...

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:34 pm
by alonsofan
bahrain will not be as hot as malaysia so ferrari will be better, i think they will be behind renault and mclaren only
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:32 am
by sgd
alonsofan wrote:bahrain will not be as hot as malaysia...
How do you know that? As i was informed Bahrain is as hot as Malaysia, the difference is the much lower humidity... isn't it?

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:54 pm
by JayVee
sgd wrote:How do you know that? As i was informed Bahrain is as hot as Malaysia, the difference is the much lower humidity... isn't it?

It actually depends if there are sand storms or not. If the skys are clear then it would be nearly as hot.
Last year I was there and it actually rained on our way to the track on Sunday, it was wierd actually because everyone was saying this is the event that will never have a wet race!
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:14 pm
by Julian Mayo
Maybe you are a rainmaker JV.! (don't live in Melbourne do you?)

Ferrari iz faster
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:33 pm
by Da style
Well I think that ferrari is heaps faster than red bull the pressure on red bull is to much for them to handle espicially when two ferraris will be infront on the grid.......haha!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:52 pm
by Julian Mayo
And then da style woke up and realized,....yes, he was only dreaming

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:03 pm
by JayVee
julian mayo wrote:Maybe you are a rainmaker JV.! (don't live in Melbourne do you?)

No

I live in the most beautiful city in the world

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:45 am
by sgd
About what alonsofan said on the tyres in Bahrain... I have two quotes...:
Martin Whitmarsh, CEO, Team McLaren Mercedes:
"In terms of operating conditions, Bahrain is similar to Sepang because it features high track temperatures, abrasive asphalt and is 'rear limited' in terms of tyre performance.
Geoffrey Willis, Technical Director BAR:
"We can expect Bahrain to be almost as hot as the previous round and the high track temperatures will make looking after the tyres a critical element during the race."
So for ferrari will be important the pace he F2005 can bring

and new compounds from Bridgestone... But as I said i don't expect them to be radical better then in Malaysia (yet).
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:20 am
by Julian Mayo
G, day JV, how's the weather in Auckland

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:06 am
by sgd