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JayVee wrote: Well done both Trulli and Webber. They had a good fight too and both finished in the points. First points for Webber I think!

I said Ralf would be replaced by Indy, they didn't listen did they ? He didn't even last more than a few metres

Yes, those were his first points and hopefully not his last for the season.

Ralf is like a joke.

gkaytaz wrote:

JayVee wrote: Well done both Trulli and Webber. They had a good fight too and both finished in the points. First points for Webber I think!

I said Ralf would be replaced by Indy, they didn't listen did they ? He didn't even last more than a few metres

Yes, those were his first points and hopefully not his last for the season.

Ralf is like a joke.

A bad one

Julian Mayo wrote:

gkaytaz wrote:

JayVee wrote: Well done both Trulli and Webber. They had a good fight too and both finished in the points. First points for Webber I think!

I said Ralf would be replaced by Indy, they didn't listen did they ? He didn't even last more than a few metres

Yes, those were his first points and hopefully not his last for the season.

Ralf is like a joke.

A bad one

Tasteless too...

On the subject of the little bro. I agree with my betters on the list (not my elders, cause I doubt if more than one or two of ye were born before 1940) that he is about as attractive and tactful as Bernard Ecclestone.

(I said "about" ... of course no one can top Bernie the bane of F1 as competitive motorsport!! )

But can any of you explain what gives with the lad?! I mean, seriously. He appears to be a far less skilled driver than Fisi or Jarno or D.C. or even Jense ---and yet he has many more F1 points and victories.

So how does one explain this anomaly?

I am trying to remember his last win. Wasn't it in Germany? Maybe he had 'German mechanics' Sorry Jay Vee: couldn't resist it.

Actually, maybe JacFan can explain it to us. I know I admire him for being so forthcoming a fan of a champion that gets under just about everyone's skin. But, at least, J.V. actually won the WDC!! And even if you don't like what he says, he always says it right out and never retracts.

So. Again. I leave it to you wiser chaps: how exactly do you explain the career of Ralph Schumacher in F1?

Jim Watt

Actually, maybe JacFan can explain it to us. I know I admire him for being so forthcoming a fan of a champion that gets under just about everyone's skin. But, at least, J.V. actually won the WDC!! And even if you don't like what he says, he always says it right out and never retracts.

Hi Jim. I am not sure if you are saying you admire me but I have to say if that is what that means then I am actually a "she". As for our friend Ralf... well that is a hard question to answer. I thought at one stage he was maturing into a fairly decent driver but somewhere along the line he just lost it. Some would say he never had it but as you pointed out he has won races and accrued a few points along the way. It would be hard to be the younger bro to Michael. Would be fun at Christmas in that household.

jacfan wrote:

Actually, maybe JacFan can explain it to us. I know I admire him for being so forthcoming a fan of a champion that gets under just about everyone's skin. But, at least, J.V. actually won the WDC!! And even if you don't like what he says, he always says it right out and never retracts.

Hi Jim. I am not sure if you are saying you admire me but I have to say if that is what that means then I am actually a "she". As for our friend Ralf... well that is a hard question to answer. I thought at one stage he was maturing into a fairly decent driver but somewhere along the line he just lost it. Some would say he never had it but as you pointed out he has won races and accrued a few points along the way. It would be hard to be the younger bro to Michael. Would be fun at Christmas in that household.

Word has it that they don't even nod at each other

Julian Mayo wrote:

jacfan wrote:

Actually, maybe JacFan can explain it to us. I know I admire him for being so forthcoming a fan of a champion that gets under just about everyone's skin. But, at least, J.V. actually won the WDC!! And even if you don't like what he says, he always says it right out and never retracts.

Hi Jim. I am not sure if you are saying you admire me but I have to say if that is what that means then I am actually a "she". As for our friend Ralf... well that is a hard question to answer. I thought at one stage he was maturing into a fairly decent driver but somewhere along the line he just lost it. Some would say he never had it but as you pointed out he has won races and accrued a few points along the way. It would be hard to be the younger bro to Michael. Would be fun at Christmas in that household.

Word has it that they don't even nod at each other

Yes I think I noticed that at a recent GP.

jacfan wrote:

Actually, maybe JacFan can explain it to us. I know I admire him for being so forthcoming a fan of a champion that gets under just about everyone's skin. But, at least, J.V. actually won the WDC!! And even if you don't like what he says, he always says it right out and never retracts.

Hi Jim. I am not sure if you are saying you admire me but I have to say if that is what that means then I am actually a "she". As for our friend Ralf... well that is a hard question to answer. I thought at one stage he was maturing into a fairly decent driver but somewhere along the line he just lost it. Some would say he never had it but as you pointed out he has won races and accrued a few points along the way. It would be hard to be the younger bro to Michael. Would be fun at Christmas in that household.

Sibling rivalry at best

Julian Mayo wrote:
Word has it that they don't even nod at each other

Ralf doesn't so much as look at Ferrari's general direction. Michael doesn't care anyway.

Sorry JacFan; once again I assumed a gender on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I will try to remember in the future.

And, yes, I was congratulating you on your loyalty to Jacques because he is, like Michael, a divisive figure in F1. Unlike Michael, however, the reasons for his unpopularity have more to do with what he says than with what he does on the track. Which is, I have to say, drive beautifully. Not that Michael, too, doesn't drive beautifully. It's just that he does other things as well.


Just got the new (June) F1 magazine. Funny how reluctant Bishop is to endorse Lewis (when they went to press we were only four races in). His essay explaining how soon Fernando would take charge shows that even people with great sources and a deep appreciation of F1's history can be swayed by their emotional attachment to a driver.


As to Julian's news about Ferarri's wind tunnel mishap and Gho Gho and GayTaz's additions. I concur about the absence of Ross B. And, of course McLaren's reliability is a HUGE factor. Had they managed to be reliable last year... well, let's just say they would have given Flavio and Fernando a run for it!

I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)

What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.

Anyway, it looks like Ralphie will very shortly be even less marketable an option than J.Villneuve. Rumors are flying, even if he isn't!

Cheers!


Jim Watt

And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure

GhoGho wrote:And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure

No race pressure

Julian Mayo wrote:

GhoGho wrote:And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure

No race pressure

As my german speaking father-in-law said:
"Ralpf is an as whole driver as anyone"
Probably meaning he is as complete a driver as any other.

GhoGho wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:

GhoGho wrote:And today Ralph topped the time sheets at silverstone........ go figure

No race pressure

As my german speaking father-in-law said:
"Ralpf is an as whole driver as anyone"
Probably meaning he is as complete a driver as any other.

Well, yeah, we all need to have one to be complete.

Jim Watt wrote:
Sorry JacFan; once again I assumed a gender on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I will try to remember in the future.

And, yes, I was congratulating you on your loyalty to Jacques because he is, like Michael, a divisive figure in F1. Unlike Michael, however, the reasons for his unpopularity have more to do with what he says than with what he does on the track. Which is, I have to say, drive beautifully. Not that Michael, too, doesn't drive beautifully. It's just that he does other things as well.


Just got the new (June) F1 magazine. Funny how reluctant Bishop is to endorse Lewis (when they went to press we were only four races in). His essay explaining how soon Fernando would take charge shows that even people with great sources and a deep appreciation of F1's history can be swayed by their emotional attachment to a driver.


As to Julian's news about Ferarri's wind tunnel mishap and Gho Gho and GayTaz's additions. I concur about the absence of Ross B. And, of course McLaren's reliability is a HUGE factor. Had they managed to be reliable last year... well, let's just say they would have given Flavio and Fernando a run for it!

I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)

What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.

Anyway, it looks like Ralphie will very shortly be even less marketable an option than J.Villneuve. Rumors are flying, even if he isn't!

Cheers!


Jim Watt

No problem Jim. As for Ralf, well I think it would be very hard to explain what the hell goes on with him. He is an enigma that is for sure.
I guess big bro would be rubbing it in how many WDC he has every chance he gets. Not exactly great for the ego.