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Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:46 am**

Looks like Williams have come up with (yet another) lemon. Remember last year when they started sounding warnings about the new car. Well those warnings are back. Sir Frank said recently that they'll be starting a bit behind

. Patrick Head admitted Webber was frustrated

because the car lacked downforce. He also admitted that there are discrepancies between the wind tunnel model and the full size car

Maybe Ralf was correct afterall

The most surprising is that Sir Frank leaked the news of Sauber getting BMW engines next year even though both sides aren't confirming anything!Sounds like BMW are getting fed up too.

Too bad for Webber

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:00 pm**

julian won't be happy about this

I do hope that Williams get the right people. Newey left them then Willis. The technical department at Williams seems to be weak and inexperienced.

Interesting news about Sauber but haven't they got their own "tunnel" bugs 2 years in a row now ? Why would BMW supply them ?

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:08 pm**

Just read that Frank Williams admitted that they are 5th Best

.Really sad that once a championship winning car now lands at no.5.
Big mistake for letting Juan go and top of it frustated driver, inexperience Director & engineers.
Mr. Patrick Head pls take over.

Posted: **Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:22 pm**

I wonder what the order of his top 5

Not sure about Patrick Head, wasn't he moved to the background because of past stuff ups ? or did he want to have more time with his family or something ?

I remember Patrick Head not giving Willis much chance when he moved to BAR but look at where BAR is now ?

I agree Sam Michael is too young for a technical director, they fired that lady who designed the radical front wing but the replacement Biogis or something (whom I think worked at Prost for sometime) apparently applied for a junior job at Jaguar and was rejected.

Posted: **Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:27 am**

Nothing from julian on this

Wonder if he's already watching the boats

Posted: **Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:25 pm**

By crikey these F1 boats are quick.

Posted: **Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:11 pm**

Well Webber was downplaying his chances today. I reckon it is bad at Williams cause Webber won't be saying this in his home country unless he really feels they are struggling

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:02 am**

From his quoted comments in today's paper, he seems resigned to fighting for fifth place. Might as well have stayed at Jaguar

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:38 am**

So now you are convinced Williams were/are slow ?

Or is this still part of the foxing process

I remind you, we'll see him fighting with JV

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:35 pm**

Read my previous reply. The Williams is "slow" not geriatric.

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:26 pm**

julian mayo wrote:Might as well have stayed at Jaguar

Mate that Red BULL will be as slow as Toyota maybe

Williams will recover just like last year but that ain't good enough. They need to get good technical people, problem is that BMW may get fed up and dump them.

I am surprised to see Webber being that negative even though he has yet to race for his (new) team. That could backfire on him

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:27 pm**

Unless they are foxing

Posted: **Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:30 pm**

Williams or Red Bull

Posted: **Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:41 am**

Both

Posted: **Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:17 pm**

Fed up? i don't think so! Webber knows how to work in team! if he wasn't at Minardi and jaguar....

Webber - 4th this sunday!!

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Webber and BMW fed up with Williams ?

Webber and BMW fed up with Williams ?