jacfan,
The hearing is scheduled for the 15th of November.
The 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix
Moderators: cmlean, Ed, The Qualiflyer, The Heretic
The International Court of Appeal met today to decide on the appeal submitted by McLaren protesting the result of the Brazilian Grand Prix. The dispute is over fuel temperature irregularities with the BMW Sauber and Williams cars that finished the race ahead of Lewis Hamilton.
If the three cars are disqualified and Hamilton moved from 7th to 4th, he will become the World Champion.
The decision is expected on Friday.
If the three cars are disqualified and Hamilton moved from 7th to 4th, he will become the World Champion.
The decision is expected on Friday.
way too much outside pressure here to overturn this thing now
way way way too much
this just give Kimi (like he really needs one) another excuse to go out and get hammered again hehe
3m
way way way too much
this just give Kimi (like he really needs one) another excuse to go out and get hammered again hehe
3m
3M: Literally translated, 3M stands for "Three Musketeers." The term is used to describe the "all for one and one for all" ethos of the purist hacker/hobbyist.
McLaren's appeal was rejected and the results for Brazil stand.
Here is the statement from the International Court of Appeal:
The FIA International Court of Appeal met in London on Thursday, November 15, 2007, to examine an appeal lodged by the Motor Sports association (MSA) on behalf of its licence-holder Vodafone McLaren Mercedes against the decision (document 41) of the Panel of the Stewards of the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix dated 21 October 2007 and counting towards the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship.
Following a report from the Technical Delegate indicating that the temperature of fuel pumped into the cars N°9 - Nick Heidfeld, N°10 - Robert Kubica, N°16 - Nico Rosberg and N°17 - Kazuki Nakajima, was more than 10 degrees centigrade below ambient temperature, the Stewards of the Meeting met to consider whether a penalty should be imposed. Having heard the evidence they decided not to impose a penalty as they had sufficient doubt as to both the temperature of the fuel on board the car and to the true ambient temperature.
Having heard the explanations of both parties and having examined the various documents and other evidence, the Court decided that the appeal lodged by Vodafone McLaren Mercedes is inadmissible.
The International Court of Appeal was presided over by Mr Jan STOVICEK (Czech Republic), elected President, and composed of Mr John CASSIDY (United States), Mr Vassilis KOUSSIS (Greece) and Mr José MACEDO e CUNHA (Portugal).
Here is the statement from the International Court of Appeal:
The FIA International Court of Appeal met in London on Thursday, November 15, 2007, to examine an appeal lodged by the Motor Sports association (MSA) on behalf of its licence-holder Vodafone McLaren Mercedes against the decision (document 41) of the Panel of the Stewards of the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix dated 21 October 2007 and counting towards the 2007 FIA Formula One World Championship.
Following a report from the Technical Delegate indicating that the temperature of fuel pumped into the cars N°9 - Nick Heidfeld, N°10 - Robert Kubica, N°16 - Nico Rosberg and N°17 - Kazuki Nakajima, was more than 10 degrees centigrade below ambient temperature, the Stewards of the Meeting met to consider whether a penalty should be imposed. Having heard the evidence they decided not to impose a penalty as they had sufficient doubt as to both the temperature of the fuel on board the car and to the true ambient temperature.
Having heard the explanations of both parties and having examined the various documents and other evidence, the Court decided that the appeal lodged by Vodafone McLaren Mercedes is inadmissible.
The International Court of Appeal was presided over by Mr Jan STOVICEK (Czech Republic), elected President, and composed of Mr John CASSIDY (United States), Mr Vassilis KOUSSIS (Greece) and Mr José MACEDO e CUNHA (Portugal).
McLaren released the following statement in response to the International Court of Appeal decision:
The FIA International Court of Appeal today rejected as inadmissible Vodafone McLaren Mercedes’ appeal against the FIA Stewards’ decision in respect of fuel irregularities at the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix.
As was made very clear prior to the appeal, the team was seeking to clarify the regulatory uncertainty that has arisen from a decision of the FIA Stewards at the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix. After the race, both Williams cars and both BMW-Sauber cars had been found by the FIA Technical Delegate, to have used fuel that had been chilled by more than the accepted margin of 10 degrees Centigrade below the ambient temperature. Despite the FIA Technical Delegate’s findings, the FIA Stewards decided that it was inappropriate to impose a penalty on the Williams and BMW-Sauber cars owing to "sufficient doubt as to both temperature of fuel on board the car and also as to the true ambient temperature."
Despite the fact that the FIA’s Steward, Tony Scott Andrews, accepted McLaren’s appeal when it was presented to him after the race in the Interlagos paddock, the FIA International Court of Appeal has decided that the appeal was not admissible. This was despite the Stewards making the official results subject to our appeal.
MARTIN WHITMARSH
The FIA International Court of Appeal today rejected as inadmissible Vodafone McLaren Mercedes’ appeal against the FIA Stewards’ decision in respect of fuel irregularities at the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix.
As was made very clear prior to the appeal, the team was seeking to clarify the regulatory uncertainty that has arisen from a decision of the FIA Stewards at the 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix. After the race, both Williams cars and both BMW-Sauber cars had been found by the FIA Technical Delegate, to have used fuel that had been chilled by more than the accepted margin of 10 degrees Centigrade below the ambient temperature. Despite the FIA Technical Delegate’s findings, the FIA Stewards decided that it was inappropriate to impose a penalty on the Williams and BMW-Sauber cars owing to "sufficient doubt as to both temperature of fuel on board the car and also as to the true ambient temperature."
Despite the fact that the FIA’s Steward, Tony Scott Andrews, accepted McLaren’s appeal when it was presented to him after the race in the Interlagos paddock, the FIA International Court of Appeal has decided that the appeal was not admissible. This was despite the Stewards making the official results subject to our appeal.
MARTIN WHITMARSH
LEWIS HAMILTONIn the interests of rule clarification and rule consistency we lodged our appeal. We have not yet seen the text of the FIA International Court of Appeal decision and hope that clarification is provided. It’s important to stress that the FIA Stewards' inquiry at the Brazilian Grand Prix was not triggered by any action from McLaren, but by a report written and made public by the FIA Technical Delegate, which drew the FIA Stewards' attention to what we regarded as a clear regulation breach on the part of BMW-Sauber and Williams. Our appeal was merely a logical and procedural step in the process begun by the FIA Technical Delegate’s written report. We hope that this fuel temperature issue does not remain unresolved in Formula 1 next year but we look forward to working with the FIA and the teams on clarifying matters to avoid a similar situation occurring again.
As I have said all along, Kimi deserved to win the 2007 World Drivers’ Championship, and neither I nor anyone at Vodafone McLaren Mercedes had any desire to take it off him in court. That was not the purpose of the team’s appeal. I am looking forward to the 2008 season and racing Kimi, and all my other rivals, on track and hopefully be able to go one better than the second place I achieved in this year’s World Drivers’ Championship.
Williams resonded to the decision with the following statement:
Williams F1 today welcomed the findings of the FIA’s International Court of Appeal (ICA), investigating the matter of the fuel temperatures recorded at the Brazilian Grand Prix earlier this year. The outcome of the hearing means that the Steward’s decision in Brazil in relation to this matter remains in force and valid. The AT&T Williams team did not transgress the regulations, demonstrate any intent or gain any competitive
advantage in relation to the management of its race fuels.
In order to respect the Court of Appeal process, Williams has refrained from making any public statement until a conclusion had been reached. The team can now confirm that the facts of this case are as follows:-
1. Article 6.5.4 of the FIA Technical Regulations states that no fuel onboard the car may be more than 100C below ambient temperature.
2. There is no specified source for the ambient temperature measurement, and there is no homologated and sealed sensor for measuring fuel temperature either in the fuel rigs or on-board the cars.
3. Meteo France, who provide official temperature measurements for the FIA and Formula One teams, recorded a maximum ambient temperature during the Brazilian GP of 33 degrees C.
4. The lowest temperatures recorded by Williams’ precise on-board sensors in the fuel tank and in the fuel injection rail on either of its cars during the Grand Prix were 31 degrees C and 35 degrees C respectively.
5. Consequently, as the Stewards found, there was no breach of the regulations.
6. All of the preceding points are consistent with all of the clarifications and opinions related to fuel temperatures expressed in Team Managers’ Meetings and other such forums. The views offered in these meetings fully support Williams’ case as presented to the FIA ICA.
These facts lay behind the Steward’s decision in Brazil. Williams was pleased to be able to present these facts to the ICA and see the Steward’s decision upheld, confirming that both Williams race cars were legal throughout the course of the Brazilian Grand Prix. In the event, the appeal of the Steward’s decision was found to be inadmissible as McLaren failed to follow the correct and clearly documented protest procedure.
Williams F1 today welcomed the findings of the FIA’s International Court of Appeal (ICA), investigating the matter of the fuel temperatures recorded at the Brazilian Grand Prix earlier this year. The outcome of the hearing means that the Steward’s decision in Brazil in relation to this matter remains in force and valid. The AT&T Williams team did not transgress the regulations, demonstrate any intent or gain any competitive
advantage in relation to the management of its race fuels.
In order to respect the Court of Appeal process, Williams has refrained from making any public statement until a conclusion had been reached. The team can now confirm that the facts of this case are as follows:-
1. Article 6.5.4 of the FIA Technical Regulations states that no fuel onboard the car may be more than 100C below ambient temperature.
2. There is no specified source for the ambient temperature measurement, and there is no homologated and sealed sensor for measuring fuel temperature either in the fuel rigs or on-board the cars.
3. Meteo France, who provide official temperature measurements for the FIA and Formula One teams, recorded a maximum ambient temperature during the Brazilian GP of 33 degrees C.
4. The lowest temperatures recorded by Williams’ precise on-board sensors in the fuel tank and in the fuel injection rail on either of its cars during the Grand Prix were 31 degrees C and 35 degrees C respectively.
5. Consequently, as the Stewards found, there was no breach of the regulations.
6. All of the preceding points are consistent with all of the clarifications and opinions related to fuel temperatures expressed in Team Managers’ Meetings and other such forums. The views offered in these meetings fully support Williams’ case as presented to the FIA ICA.
These facts lay behind the Steward’s decision in Brazil. Williams was pleased to be able to present these facts to the ICA and see the Steward’s decision upheld, confirming that both Williams race cars were legal throughout the course of the Brazilian Grand Prix. In the event, the appeal of the Steward’s decision was found to be inadmissible as McLaren failed to follow the correct and clearly documented protest procedure.
And Ferrari issued the folllowing statement following the International Court of Appeal:
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro is completely satisfied with today’s decision of the International Court of Appeal which confirms the result of the Brazilian Grand Prix, as a consequence of which Kimi Raikkonen won the Formula 1 Drivers’ World Championship.
“The decision of the ICA finally brings to an end a very intense season, both on and off the track,” declared Jean Todt, Ferrari CEO. “Today, a final and desperate attempt to change the result obtained on the track was rejected. Now, all our efforts are focused on preparing for next season.”
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro is completely satisfied with today’s decision of the International Court of Appeal which confirms the result of the Brazilian Grand Prix, as a consequence of which Kimi Raikkonen won the Formula 1 Drivers’ World Championship.
“The decision of the ICA finally brings to an end a very intense season, both on and off the track,” declared Jean Todt, Ferrari CEO. “Today, a final and desperate attempt to change the result obtained on the track was rejected. Now, all our efforts are focused on preparing for next season.”
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Thank you for keeping us all up to date on that issue. I am pleased to see that sanity has prevailed. I was not fussed about who won the title but did not want the whole damn thing determined by the courts.
And so now we can focus on the future.
And so now we can focus on the future.
Holy crap on a cracker! 
Number one idiot for 2007!!!!!
2008 Round of France winner!!! Wooooooohoooo!!!!!!
2010 Round of Britian winner!!!!!!
Number one idiot for 2007!!!!!
2008 Round of France winner!!! Wooooooohoooo!!!!!!
2010 Round of Britian winner!!!!!!