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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:10 am
by Julian Mayo
The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:30 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:Imagine by some interference of an extraordinary force (no not Bernie or the FIA) RBR winning the title
Joke aside I think they will improve quite a bit but not enough to score more than a couple of podiums at best.
DC is a consistent 8th place driver. Occasional higher place finishes perhaps. One thing he does well, I admit, is that whenever he sees an opportunity he grabs it (in terms of F1, can't vouch for his life outside the paddock). And hangs on to it.
Webber is good and faster than DC but not fast enough to get very high up.
I do not concur.

Would have been disappointed if you did

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:32 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc

Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:34 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:Imagine by some interference of an extraordinary force (no not Bernie or the FIA) RBR winning the title
Joke aside I think they will improve quite a bit but not enough to score more than a couple of podiums at best.
DC is a consistent 8th place driver. Occasional higher place finishes perhaps. One thing he does well, I admit, is that whenever he sees an opportunity he grabs it (in terms of F1, can't vouch for his life outside the paddock). And hangs on to it.
Webber is good and faster than DC but not fast enough to get very high up.
I do not concur.

Would have been disappointed if you did

I simply abbhor disappointing people

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:35 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc

Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure???

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:38 am
by Julian Mayo
Lower pressure = fewer leaks,=higher temps.......hence bgger intakes
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:38 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc

Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure???

Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:39 am
by Julian Mayo
Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:40 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:
I simply abbhor disappointing people

Good, so I made your day then

Or night rather

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:41 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer

Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:43 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:
Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure???

Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:44 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer

Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
Variable for the circuit at hand

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:48 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:
lower viscosity=less pressure???

Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes

They'll get the seamless shift from Renault. The rest depends on how big RBR wants to gamble

With Newey in the picture one can never be sure what's to be called a
big gamble though

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:50 am
by gkaytaz
Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer

Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
Variable for the circuit at hand

They might use slap-on pieces to create intake sizes necessary to suit changing conditions during the race.
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:52 am
by Julian Mayo
gkaytaz wrote:Julian Mayo wrote:gkaytaz wrote:
Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes

They'll get the seamless shift from Renault. The rest depends on how big RBR wants to gamble

With Newey in the picture one can never be sure what's to be called a
big gamble though

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top 5 in the first year, or a complete dog. I like to think.....he has had a long time to think about things
