FIA/AMD FORMULA ONE SURVEY

rah · Post by **rah** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:31 am

The results of the survey are in.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=193022

You never know, FIA might actually listen.

Graham Ross · Post by **Graham Ross** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:58 am

I can't see how such a survey can change much. The results can be read in many ways and it all depends on how the question was asked!!

88% of people want more emphasis on drivers yet 80% agree technology is what sets F1 apart ???
If you take technolgy away you'll have more emphasis on the driver but then F1 becomes FF

The only thing that was clear was that fans want the old qualifying system back.

I thought the cicruits question was silly and doesn't serve any purpose.

And the most useless stat "99% of fans watch Formula One on TV" Oh really

And I cannot understand what AMD's Vice President has to do with "It's encouraging to find that a majority of fans look forward to the technical innovations each season"

I know it is hard to get the opinion of the fans but I don't think this survey has helped much

Byron Forbes · Post by **Byron Forbes** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:46 pm

Quite ammusing that this rides on the back of Mosely telling us all how F1 is a sport, not entertainment.

One of the questions should have been -

Would you like to see more than 6 cars race at IMS?

Mosely should change his name to Rafferty.

gmcg28c · Post by **gmcg28c** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:59 am

Max's response to survey.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/story_20290.shtml

I generally support what he say's in this letter. and have express this view in the past.

I believe that F1 can broaden its appeal if the wider community feel the sport has some relevence to our daily lives.

This happened in Australia in the golden era ( 1960's to 1980's) of the Bathurst 500/1000. this annual event drew a lot interest from the average man (whom did not generally follow motorsport as such. ) the 'off the showroom' production cars of the day being put to the test. Cars that they could relate to, as they either owned or may be thinking of purchasing. This event epitimized the term "win on Sunday, sell on Monday". those days are over, as now days the event is contested with the formulated V8 Supercars. Of course, I do not suggest F1 be a contest of of everyday production vehicles.

Max's suggestion of encouraging 'useful technologies' is I think a good strategy.

I personally would eventually like to see hydrogen being used as the fuel. I believe hydrogen is the fuel of the future , this would help appease 'eco' critics.

also another idea, Champ cars use to compete with rationed fuel allocation. which meant having to manage your fuel burn in order to finish, you could go flat out most of the time but not all the time. this would encourage engines being designed for efficiency instead of just only for performance. this rule also broadens the dimensions of race strategy and stimulates more overtaking.

But I say again, I am not a supporter of control components like tyres etc. except for the proposed control ECU. the rule that is currently applied to the engines (last two races) could also work for many of the other components.

rah · Post by **rah** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:54 am

I like the idea of a fuel allocation. Start off large and reduce it every year.

Byron Forbes · Post by **Byron Forbes** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:06 am

Yep. That era of the 80s was excellent imo, especially with turbos and adjustable boost. A 40 sec lead could mean nothing. It's a perfect fit with the new tyre rules (1 tyre for entire race) also. If they did go that route it would be good to also see no engine restrictions at all imo.

Max was even talking about hydrogen as fuel????? Now that would be interesting!

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:10 pm

Max's response to the survey

He's just playing politics

Any technology developed in Formula 1 can find its way to normal cars and not just what Mosely suggests. In fact the energy retention is already used in electric cars!!

It is a sign that Mosley is under a lot of pressure and needs to find a way out IMHO

gmcg28c · Post by **gmcg28c** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:21 pm

Yes, I guess Max is privately probably eating a lot of humble pie, and publicly trying to present the " hey, I'm a flexible, obliging kinda guy".
Max's time is up, FIA need new blood.

Maybe Max should see what it is like to attend a F1 race meeting with a general admission ticket.

I was at the 2000 Melbourne GP and declared I would not go again because there was not much trackside viewing to be had. I could not see at all the main straight as this was all 100% occupied by corporate grandstands and boxes, and my annoyance was compounded by these corporate boxes mostly empty most of the time, except at race start time while general admission were cramed into only a few pockets around the circuit. I could not even view any pit workshop action, not even from a distance. All that one could really do was watch the big screens with my back to the track. I think I glimpsed Maclaren's tyre stack. and I saw last year's model race cars in a display tent.

In Australia's V8 Supercars you can obtain a pitpass with general admission, which allows you to freely wonder behind the pit bay areas amonst the transportors etc, you can from close distance see teams in stages preparation or repairing cars, where drivers will regularly mingle with fans, you can smell the fuels and oils, peer into the race car windows or even touch and feel some rubber. At Bathurst they have a panel beaters training workshop at the circuit were you can stand and watch young trainees work all night long repairing shunted cars for the weekends race. This is also what F1 race meetings are lacking.

rah · Post by **rah** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:10 pm

I hear ya brother! F1 needs to take a step back and look at what other successful motorsports are doing. I do like the idea of new technologies in F1 though. Just not driver aids.

gmcg28c · Post by **gmcg28c** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:27 pm

For those who are unfamilar with the properties of hydrogen here is one of many websites on the subject

http://www.hydrogenus.com/
http://www.hydrogenus.com/nha-facts.asp

and yes Rah, Bathurst is special. I live not far away and go regularly to the 1000 and the 24Hr's with my brother who does recovery. I have noted over the years the visiting international drivers love it and fear it, and continually rate it in the top 3 - 5 best circuit worldwide. I don't know of any other major circuit worldwide that incorporates a hill climb and a descent like Mt Panorama does. I can only think of Laguna Sega and that does not really compare.