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I think MS in fact moved twice (K-D: he wan't obligated to say that!!) it seems to me too strange if he decided to lie and say so...
one thing was very interesting in the vote: Rubens vote against MS! ... that's very interesting indeed if that K-D said id truth...

JayVee wrote:...

As for spiting and stressing, well isn't Michael as master at that what comes around ....

Yes he is, but that is in a different context and they all do that anyway on occasion.

The problem with this "vote" is that this is not how the drivers normally act and "solve" this kind of issue.

Unless they will call Ralf and Giancarlo to stand and appolgize before Bahrain, then it is bollocks and a useless demonstration reflecting poorly on all the 19 drivers voting, instead of the 1 driver being votwed upon.

If F1 feel that a ruling is needed, then institues that all incidents where cars touch are investigated and ruled upon. Then we can stop all these "he did, no he did, not he did not, yes he did".

K-D wrote: If F1 feel that a ruling is needed, then institues that all incidents where cars touch are investigated and ruled upon. Then we can stop all these "he did, no he did, not he did not, yes he did".

i do feel the same!

And according to Ralf Schumacher at F1racing.net - no vote was taken. The mater was talked over and the other drivers felt that Michael was to blame, he appologiced to Nick.

Still a garbage discussion unless they do that for all incidnets from now on.

Must be fun for Michael to be counselled by all the drivers he has chopped up in the past!

K-D wrote:And according to Ralf Schumacher at F1racing.net - no vote was taken. The mater was talked over and the other drivers felt that Michael was to blame, he appologiced to Nick.

Very strange, how was it that I even heard about the results??



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back Julian

sgd wrote:

K-D wrote:And according to Ralf Schumacher at F1racing.net - no vote was taken. The mater was talked over and the other drivers felt that Michael was to blame, he appologiced to Nick.

Very strange, how was it that I even heard about the results??



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back Julian

Don't belive all you hear read in the media. They are know to not really tell the truth, and on occasion even make stories up.

A famous fairytale was "It's Quite True!" which mirro how the media sometimes handle the truth.

K-D wrote:Don't belive all you hear read in the media. They are know to not really tell the truth, and on occasion even make stories up.

So true. Always try to get both sides of the story

But Michael was at fault with this one

JayVee wrote:

K-D wrote:Don't belive all you hear read in the media. They are know to not really tell the truth, and on occasion even make stories up.

So true. Always try to get both sides of the story

But Michael was at fault with this one

No he was not. It was a racing incident.

BULL !

julian mayo wrote:BULL !

Thought so too but I guess it is a stalemate

(A2D) Agree 2 Disagree

yup!

Yup

K-D wrote:

JayVee wrote:

K-D wrote:Don't belive all you hear read in the media. They are know to not really tell the truth, and on occasion even make stories up.

So true. Always try to get both sides of the story

But Michael was at fault with this one

No he was not. It was a racing incident.

He was and "everybody" accepted that except you and it's named:

MS moving while braking. (even he said he did) and there's a gentleman agreement not to do this. so other drivers do not expect those moves...
About it Mark Webber said:
''We don't move around in the braking area,''
and
Fellow GPDA director David Coulthard referred to a drivers' 'gentleman's agreement' on not changing line under braking.
And MS said he did move twice there, I can't see your point in calling it a "racing incident", what obvisly was but with a confesed guilty...
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anyway if you still think MS is not to blame I could begin to call you blind-MS fan... (just joking)

Guys we are beating ourselves up for nothing, lets agree to disagree