The 2007 Belgian Grand Prix

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Driver of the day ?

Kimi Raikkonen
7
70%
Felipe Massa
0
No votes
Fernando Alonso
2
20%
Lewis Hamilton
0
No votes
Nick Heidfeld
0
No votes
Nico Rosberg
0
No votes
Mark Webber
1
10%
Heikki Kovalainen
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 10

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Post by JayVee » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:21 pm

Bundy wrote:My opinion on the Alonso move on Hamilton at the start;

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The longer the season goes the more I want FA to win....Hamilton is starting to really bug me. What goes round comes round young fella!!

And it looks like it is starting to come round. The lack of set-up data from FA is starting have a negative effect on LH & is showing FA's all round skill.

After all there is more to F1 than merely driving fast!!
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Post by Julian Mayo » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:34 pm

JayVee wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
JayVee wrote:Good to see you Kapel! You are entitled to call that move whatever you want.

To me it was agrressive but nothing like what Michael used to do regulary.

What annoys me is that very few say good things about Alonso despite all his acheivements and as soon as they see something that could resemble an unfair move he becomes the bad guy and gets compared to Michael's bad moves.

Don't know why people like to just highlight the bad but not even mention the good. I think the best race of the season was the Nurburgring one and Alonso was just way ahead of anyone else, go read the comments people made then!
I guess people are just too surprised that someone could actually win 2 championships and about to win his 3rd and not have dirty moves on the track.
I'm just practising for when he is dressed in red next season 8)
:D :D

If he does go to Ferrari next season, it will be very sad for me.
Yes, I can well imagine. Sadder for Massa, tho. 8)
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Post by gkaytaz » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:43 pm

Alonso's possibilities for 2008 are Renault, Toyota and Williams. Anything other than that would mean major legal issues. So I guess it'll be some time before we see him in red overalls.
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Post by Julian Mayo » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:57 pm

Cousin Bernice reckons that because McLaren have been found guilty as charged, both drivers are free to go wherever they want, invoking the clause which is almost mandatory in every Driver's contract,
Only a complete newbie, to any form of sport involving an engine, represented by a blind, deaf, mute, sunlight sensitive, scared of the dark, agrophobic St. Bernard with personality issues, for a manager, would not have that clause in his/her contract, she reckons :?
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Post by Redhead » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:23 am

JayVee wrote:Good to see you Kapel! You are entitled to call that move whatever you want.

To me it was agrressive but nothing like what Michael used to do regulary.

What annoys me is that very few say good things about Alonso despite all his acheivements and as soon as they see something that could resemble an unfair move he becomes the bad guy and gets compared to Michael's bad moves.

Don't know why people like to just highlight the bad but not even mention the good. I think the best race of the season was the Nurburgring one and Alonso was just way ahead of anyone else, go read the comments people made then!
I guess people are just too surprised that someone could actually win 2 championships and about to win his 3rd and not have dirty moves on the track.
Am I the only one staggering under the weight of the irony here?
All Italiano WDC 2007!
(OK there was a Finn, a Brazilian and a Frenchman ...........)

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Post by Julian Mayo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:48 am

Redhead wrote:
JayVee wrote:Good to see you Kapel! You are entitled to call that move whatever you want.

To me it was agrressive but nothing like what Michael used to do regulary.

What annoys me is that very few say good things about Alonso despite all his acheivements and as soon as they see something that could resemble an unfair move he becomes the bad guy and gets compared to Michael's bad moves.

Don't know why people like to just highlight the bad but not even mention the good. I think the best race of the season was the Nurburgring one and Alonso was just way ahead of anyone else, go read the comments people made then!
I guess people are just too surprised that someone could actually win 2 championships and about to win his 3rd and not have dirty moves on the track.
Am I the only one staggering under the weight of the irony here?
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Post by Jim Watt » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:44 am

:D :D Cheers Jay Vee. Whenever your driver moves as dramatically as he did on the first lap, you can expect people to find the move "unsporting" if they don't like him and "gutsy" or "brave" if they do.

The more IMPORTANT thing is the result. I have slo-motioned my tape of that (on Speed TV coverage from several angles including from Felipe's car looking back at the McLarens) move by Fernando and I have to conclude, sadly, that he was more interested in blocking or preventing his team mate from getting ahead of him than he was in getting past Felipe.

If you look closely I think you'll see that had he been paying more attention to Felipe he probably could have out-braked him and gotten him on the next turn! that would not only have probably gotten him more points (I can't see Felipe overtaking Fernando in anything like comparable cars!!), it would have put Lewis even FURTHER behind him and made for a MUCH more interesting race.

Once it was clear that the Ferarris were slightly quicker than the McLarens, the WDC protected his points and cruised behind Felipe, hoping for a mistake or failure of some kind. The way Lewis struggled through the race shows that he was NEVER a real threat.

Since Fuji is a completely "new" circuit for everyone, I think Hambone will probably take the pole, followed very closely by Kimi.

Won't THAT be fun to watch!

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Post by jacfan » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:35 pm

JayVee wrote:Good to see you Kapel! You are entitled to call that move whatever you want.

To me it was agrressive but nothing like what Michael used to do regulary.

What annoys me is that very few say good things about Alonso despite all his acheivements and as soon as they see something that could resemble an unfair move he becomes the bad guy and gets compared to Michael's bad moves.

Don't know why people like to just highlight the bad but not even mention the good. I think the best race of the season was the Nurburgring one and Alonso was just way ahead of anyone else, go read the comments people made then!
I guess people are just too surprised that someone could actually win 2 championships and about to win his 3rd and not have dirty moves on the track.
Hey not everyone. :shock:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:00 pm

jacfan wrote:
JayVee wrote:Good to see you Kapel! You are entitled to call that move whatever you want.

To me it was agrressive but nothing like what Michael used to do regulary.

What annoys me is that very few say good things about Alonso despite all his acheivements and as soon as they see something that could resemble an unfair move he becomes the bad guy and gets compared to Michael's bad moves.

Don't know why people like to just highlight the bad but not even mention the good. I think the best race of the season was the Nurburgring one and Alonso was just way ahead of anyone else, go read the comments people made then!
I guess people are just too surprised that someone could actually win 2 championships and about to win his 3rd and not have dirty moves on the track.
Hey not everyone. :shock:
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Post by Kapel » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:53 pm

Huh..y am i being dragged into this :?: :roll: ..i said Alonso's move was ok for me ..its racing..(well JayVee,Michael comparison was just to tease u..its been a while :wink: )
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Post by Julian Mayo » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:40 am

With the benefit of hindsight, and taking all of the evidence presented into account............................. :?
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