The 2007 German Grand Prix

[willebra]

Was Hamilton really favored? Claims are that during the pileup in the gravel trap at turn one he was given preferential treatment. Some say that his was not the only engine that was running at the time.

It's news from a rather questionable Spanish paper but could be worth pondering if true.

The full text is here (in Spanish. Don't feel like translating, sorry):

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Favore ... mot_5/Tes/

or for the google english version (which is amusing in itself)

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools

By the way, did Hamilton use the same engine after the crash in the qualifying? I doubt he did since the crash probably did not affect the engine well. If so, I expected him to start on position 20, instead of 10 (engine change). Comments?

[GhoGho]

By the way, did Hamilton use the same engine after the crash in the qualifying? I doubt he did since the crash probably did not affect the engine well. If so, I expected him to start on position 20, instead of 10 (engine change). Comments?

According to the Speed Chanel commentators the car was rebuilt around the old engine, allowing LH to start in 10th spot (his qualifying position for Q3)

PS Welcome to the forum

[gkaytaz]

This part of the translation takes the cake

"Scott Speed, who already had gotten off itself before his Toro Rosso, as she marks by security the regulation well of ENTRUSTS it in articulated his, could not avoid to be surprised when seeing as the crane took the single-seater of the Briton until placing it, again, on the brink of madness the track so that she could follow his participation in the great prize."

So is SS a he she or it?

They

[gkaytaz]

Was Hamilton really favored? Claims are that during the pileup in the gravel trap at turn one he was given preferential treatment. Some say that his was not the only engine that was running at the time.

It's news from a rather questionable Spanish paper but could be worth pondering if true.

The full text is here (in Spanish. Don't feel like translating, sorry):

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Favore ... mot_5/Tes/

or for the google english version (which is amusing in itself)

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools

By the way, did Hamilton use the same engine after the crash in the qualifying? I doubt he did since the crash probably did not affect the engine well. If so, I expected him to start on position 20, instead of 10 (engine change). Comments?

GhoGho is correct. He used the old engine and transmission allowing him to stay where he was. Didn't help him much though

[gkaytaz]

Oh and welcome to the forum.

[Julian Mayo]

I just gotta move to Spain.

[Julian Mayo]

The results see REDBULL jump over Toyota to within a couple of points of Williams, oh what a feeling.

[mlittle]

The results see REDBULL jump over Toyota to within a couple of points of Williams, oh what a feeling.

So, it's true.............Red Bull really does give you wings, huh?

[Ed]

Was Hamilton really favored? Claims are that during the pileup in the gravel trap at turn one he was given preferential treatment. Some say that his was not the only engine that was running at the time.

It's news from a rather questionable Spanish paper but could be worth pondering if true.

The full text is here (in Spanish. Don't feel like translating, sorry):

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Favore ... mot_5/Tes/

or for the google english version (which is amusing in itself)

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools

By the way, did Hamilton use the same engine after the crash in the qualifying? I doubt he did since the crash probably did not affect the engine well. If so, I expected him to start on position 20, instead of 10 (engine change). Comments?

Hamilton did not change engines. Had he done so, he would have started from 20th or the pitlane to change his strategy!

Welcome to the forums

[gkaytaz]

The results see REDBULL jump over Toyota to within a couple of points of Williams, oh what a feeling.

So, it's true.............Red Bull really does give you wings, huh?

It was not bad, I agree. But unless they improve the reliability those would soon be clipped wings.

[gkaytaz]

I just gotta move to Spain.

A tad too hot for your taste

[Julian Mayo]

I just gotta move to Spain.

A tad too hot for your taste

The Spanish Dancer will make it a damn sight hotter here, if I don't

[Julian Mayo]

The results see REDBULL jump over Toyota to within a couple of points of Williams, oh what a feeling.

So, it's true.............Red Bull really does give you wings, huh?

It was not bad, I agree. But unless they improve the reliability those would soon be clipped wings.

Given their last few races, compared to this, they just might have. The most common sight in F1, the last two years?....The lanky frame of MW walking away from a perfectly good race car, albeit with a 2% part of that vehicle rendering the entire vehicle inoperable
The team has stated that the big issue is that there has not been a singular big issue.......each failure has been an individual failure......not even a result of fixing one thing, and having somrthing further down the line, be it electronic, fuel, whatever, failing as a result of the fix.
Two failures are down to Reanult,

[gkaytaz]

It was not bad, I agree. But unless they improve the reliability those would soon be clipped wings.

Given their last few races, compared to this, they just might have. The most common sight in F1, the last two years?....The lanky frame of MW walking away from a perfectly good race car, albeit with a 2% part of that vehicle rendering the entire vehicle inoperable
The team has stated that the big issue is that there has not been a singular big issue.......each failure has been an individual failure......not even a result of fixing one thing, and having somrthing further down the line, be it electronic, fuel, whatever, failing as a result of the fix.
Two failures are down to Reanult,

Yes and no.

DC and Webber managed to finish together twice (and that during the last three races)! Guess the reliability is improving.

However that might be misleading. Let's look at their track record: Together the duo had 9 retirements; Webber 4, DC 5. None happened because of the engine. In Webber's case two were gearbox problems, the other two hydraulics. As for DC, 2 were crashes, then one of each gearbox, driveshaft and brakes. So the engine is reliable... The team has some of the top engineers, which should translate to more reliable chassis. Now either the engineers are bungling up or the drivers are to blame. I refuse to believe the latter cuz both DC and Webber are solid drivers who time and again managed to prove themselves. That leaves us with one option.

I just hope RedBull puts in some more man hours into this and fix the car for good. They deserve to be higher up in the standings. At least a contender as strong as Renault if not better.

[Julian Mayo]

According to the Team, two of Webbo's DNFs were down to Renualt Couplings