No other team mate, despite your recommendations, has been able to stay with him. I don't expect that to changeJayVee wrote:Different name, you forgot different nameJulian Mayo wrote:Old Team ? Different crew, different chassis, different suspension, different engine, different drivers, different paint, different sponsors......Old team ?JayVee wrote: .
In 2005, no one imagined Webber going back to his old team, no one.
So you think that Webber going to his old (but totally different) team will be able to fit in straight away and hose Coulthard who has been there for a few years![]()
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You make me laugh!Julian Mayo wrote: No other team mate, despite your recommendations, has been able to stay with him. I don't expect that to change
That is why he is going back to his old team ?
There is an opening at Renault Julian, if he is that good why didn't Webber find a seat there ? There is also a seat at McLaren ?
Moving to Red Bull isn't a sign of title winning ambitions, it is a sign of managing to stay in F1 that's all.
His time is running out and if he must impress at Red Bull in 2007
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Be factual JV, he goes where Briatore tells him to go,...as I said in several posts, he will only join Renault if Briatore leaves, as Briatore is not going to pay himself, his cut of Marks income.JayVee wrote:You make me laugh!Julian Mayo wrote: No other team mate, despite your recommendations, has been able to stay with him. I don't expect that to change
That is why he is going back to his old team ?
There is an opening at Renault Julian, if he is that good why didn't Webber find a seat there ? There is also a seat at McLaren ?
Moving to Red Bull isn't a sign of title winning ambitions, it is a sign of managing to stay in F1 that's all.
His time is running out and if he must impress at Red Bull in 2007
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The Renault engine deal for RedBull is being negotiated now. Renault have to sell engines to stay viable in F1.
I recall you expected Klien to hose Webbo......where is Klien driving next year ?
There is no seat at McLaren.

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It will be good to see, and you are right it will make or brake him.JayVee wrote:I don't see many here speculating who will get the upper hand ?
Will Webber get the better of Coulthard ? He'd better cause if he doesn't then his career will be going nowhere![]()
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And lets see what he does in 2007 before talking about 2008.
In 2005, no one imagined Webber going back to his old team, no one.
In 2005 no one imagined Williams would have the year that it has had. If you take away the backmarkers, you will find Williams lagging at the rear.
Red bull are going up, Williams are getting worse.
Ok, Lewis may win the WDC in 07, but Sato will beat him in 08.
Great, great news for Webber. Hopefully (with Newey's input) he should be in a competitive car. I hope so, Webber needs it bad, and he's a driver who needs to shine soon.
So that will be Kimi and maybe Schuie in the Ferrari (and Kimi is gonna play second fiddle? I don't think so!), Alonso in the McLaren, Button in the Honda and now Webber and DC in the Red Bull. That's gotta be a great line up for next season!
I cannee wait!
Really wanted Webber to shine at Williams, but as he has just said, the team is drastically underfunded. Good move by Button to get out of his contract when he did. But a poor season from these two 'rivals' - looking for something better from these two next year.
Oh yeah, Button - Excellent result, still on a cloud!
So that will be Kimi and maybe Schuie in the Ferrari (and Kimi is gonna play second fiddle? I don't think so!), Alonso in the McLaren, Button in the Honda and now Webber and DC in the Red Bull. That's gotta be a great line up for next season!
I cannee wait!
Really wanted Webber to shine at Williams, but as he has just said, the team is drastically underfunded. Good move by Button to get out of his contract when he did. But a poor season from these two 'rivals' - looking for something better from these two next year.
Oh yeah, Button - Excellent result, still on a cloud!
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A pretty even match up in both wet and dry if you want my opinion (which you probably dont)JayVee wrote:I don't see many here speculating who will get the upper hand ?
Will Webber get the better of Coulthard ? He'd better cause if he doesn't then his career will be going nowhere![]()
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And lets see what he does in 2007 before talking about 2008.
In 2005, no one imagined Webber going back to his old team, no one.
MW didnt impress in the wet at all, considering all the hype.

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The Hype comes from me. The Williams cars were basically undrivable at race speeds.GhoGho wrote:A pretty even match up in both wet and dry if you want my opinion (which you probably dont)JayVee wrote:I don't see many here speculating who will get the upper hand ?
Will Webber get the better of Coulthard ? He'd better cause if he doesn't then his career will be going nowhere![]()
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And lets see what he does in 2007 before talking about 2008.
In 2005, no one imagined Webber going back to his old team, no one.
MW didnt impress in the wet at all, considering all the hype.
I have seen Webber race in the wet a number of times. He usually won. Sometimes he won by 40 seconds or more. Hence the hype

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Lol yeah, can't fault the bloke for wanting to stay at honda now. Although I have done on numerous occasions.Snowy wrote:Jenson and I didrah wrote:In 2005 no one imagined Williams would have the year that it has had. If you take away the backmarkers, you will find Williams lagging at the rear.
Ok, Lewis may win the WDC in 07, but Sato will beat him in 08.
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Anything would be better than Williams or Midland. Even Aguri is improving.rah wrote:Lol yeah, can't fault the bloke for wanting to stay at honda now. Although I have done on numerous occasions.Snowy wrote:Jenson and I didrah wrote:In 2005 no one imagined Williams would have the year that it has had. If you take away the backmarkers, you will find Williams lagging at the rear.
As Webbo says, its the first and last time he will go against Flavio's wishes, as he did when he signed for Williams

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The customer Ferrari engine have been as much as 20-30 hp down on The Ferrari team engines at the same meetingsLloyd wrote:I think DC will be more consistant and MW will be more up and down but will get more points and "podiums"![]()
So its Webber by a chin, for me.
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Julian Mayo wrote: he goes where Briatore tells him to go,...as I said in several posts, he will only join Renault if Briatore leaves, as Briatore is not going to pay himself, his cut of Marks income.
He went to Williams against the advise of Briatore!
Alonso is managed by Briatore, why is he at Renault ?
Kovalainen will be at Renualt next year and he is also managed by Briatore.
The problem is with Webber. Face it, he hasn't proved himself enough for a Renault seat.
There is not only Red Bull that is looking after engines.Julian Mayo wrote: The Renault engine deal for RedBull is being negotiated now. Renault have to sell engines to stay viable in F1.
You recallJulian Mayo wrote: I recall you expected Klien to hose Webbo......where is Klien driving next year ?
There is no seat at McLaren.




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When did I say Klien will hose Webber ?
Lets see, Webber and Klien were teammates in 2004. Was this forum running then ? ED HELP!!
Or did you know me from another forum ?
You want to accuse me of saying something, show me a quote or stay quiet.
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