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Post by Kapel » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:26 pm

JayVee wrote:
jacfan wrote:the so called "greatest driver of our time".
Are you referring to that driver who was lapped in the wet over the weekend ? Oh please, greatest loser maybe :roll:
Lapping Michael gives Alonso a place in greatest Winners & Michael in greatest losers? :lol: :lol: Blue & Yellow glasses

Sorry in the end it didnt stay that way :lol:
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Post by jacfan » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:56 pm

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jacfan wrote: You want to compare drivers and leave the stats out... yeah sure that makes sense .... NOT!!!! You are entitled to your opinion however I am also entitled to mine and I think/believe you cannot tear a drivers career to shreds simply because he has only won one WDC. One is still better than many of the other good drivers out there past and present. I find your comments to be highly insulting not only to Jacques but to his supporters and believe me I am not the only one.
I don't want to get into a slanging match with you or anyone else but I will not tolerate ignorant comments.
Firstly,even 1 WDC is an amazing achievement by any F1 drivers.U have read my quote more emotionally than what i was trying to convey.Let me put this in simple words:-

JV-one time WDC,was very good in his earlier days in the 1990's,but after his switch to BAR HONDA,he has failed to live upto expectation.I compltetly understand the car was bad so one cant expect wins form him.But in Sauber since 2005,his performance have been lacklusture & inconsistnent( i compared his performance to Ralf,cos IMHO Toyota & Sauber were nearly at par or Sauber a notch above in 2005 atleast)Both drivers in the past 2 years have shown sprut of performances probably to save their seat,but highly inconsistent.

Secondly,Jacfan,i'm sorry to hurt your feeling b'cos i said something abt ur fav driver.But lot of ppl in this forum have to face one's opinion abt their fav.driver,which involves myself almost all the time.N to remind u,U r one of the person who do have a strong opinion abt my fav driver most of the time.Its always criticism & never appreciation even if he does well(dont expect that from u'll anyways,just to make a point)

I'm entitled to my opinion,which i deem fit,criticism or appreciation for any driver,that includes Michael too...
Atleast i'm consistent & not biased.
Actually Kapel I have had very little to say about Michael. You are entitled to your opinion and I only reacted to what you said about Jacques. Yes he is my number one driver but I am not totally biased. I am also happy to see JB, MW even Ralf win. What I don't like is some of the tactics Michael and Ferrari have used to win at all costs. Ferrari appear to believe that there are two sets of rules... one for them, in which they can do whatever it takes and another set of rules for everyone else. Michael is a great driver and he has sullied his reputation by many acts that were beneath is dignity (or should have been) in order to be the best. He will go down in history but I don't think he has made many friends in or out of the F1 paddock.
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Post by Kapel » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:14 pm

Completely agree with u.
N if u check back for my posts,i've critised Michael & Ferrari for those tactics whenever they used tht.
But i argue on things when all blames r put on them but nothing on other teams eg.Mclaren now complained abt mass dampers,but the suspect earlier was on Ferrari :evil:

I dont dislike Jacques,but i offered my fair opinion on him for the last 2 years & while comparing in the bargain it even implied on the inconsistent drivers on the drid with big expectations & that includes my friend :(
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Post by jacfan » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:23 pm

Since I have only been on here for four months I cannot be expected to read everything you have written over the last two years. I only reacted to comments you made. Don't worry though, as far as I am concerned this is over. :cry:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:09 am

jacfan wrote:Since I have only been on here for four months I cannot be expected to read everything you have written over the last two years. I only reacted to comments you made. Don't worry though, as far as I am concerned this is over. :cry:
It seems like only yesterday :shock:
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Post by JayVee » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:44 pm

rah wrote:
JayVee wrote:
jacfan wrote:the so called "greatest driver of our time".
Are you referring to that driver who was lapped in the wet over the weekend ? Oh please, greatest loser maybe :roll:
Hey, wasn't your boy in blue lapped at Hungary last year? And from memory that was in the dry........ But then despite that result he managed to win the WDC. Amazing.
Yes he was and you know the circumstances. (and Alonso lapped that driver in Hungary in 2003 too).

Greatest loser isn't because he was lapped. It may be understood that way. He was lapped many times before.
I am calling him the greatest loser cause he doesn't accept responsibility for his mistakes.
I'm back and yes supporting Alonso "The Cute" in the Ferrari!

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Post by JayVee » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:46 pm

Kapel wrote:
JayVee wrote:
jacfan wrote:the so called "greatest driver of our time".
Are you referring to that driver who was lapped in the wet over the weekend ? Oh please, greatest loser maybe :roll:
Lapping Michael gives Alonso a place in greatest Winners & Michael in greatest losers? :lol: :lol: Blue & Yellow glasses

Sorry in the end it didnt stay that way :lol:
See above. :wink:
I'm back and yes supporting Alonso "The Cute" in the Ferrari!

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Post by Kapel » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:08 pm

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jacfan wrote:Since I have only been on here for four months I cannot be expected to read everything you have written over the last two years. I only reacted to comments you made. Don't worry though, as far as I am concerned this is over. :cry:
It seems like only yesterday :shock:
2 years :shock: :shock:

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Post by jacfan » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:13 pm

Drinks are on me at the moment as it is my birthday on Sunday........Yay!!!
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Post by Kapel » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:21 pm

jacfan wrote:Drinks are on me at the moment as it is my birthday on Sunday........Yay!!!
Hey Happpy Birthday in advance Jacfan...keep a tab on ur tab :wink:
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Post by jacfan » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:23 pm

Thanks Kapel. I am off to see The Boy from Oz ( stage show if you haven't heard of it) and am sooooo excited.
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Post by Kapel » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:27 pm

jacfan wrote:Thanks Kapel. I am off to see The Boy from Oz ( stage show if you haven't heard of it) and am sooooo excited.
Never heard of them but i'm sure u'll have fun on ur birthday...come back fully charged for another duel :wink: :lol:
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Post by jacfan » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:34 pm

No worries mate :wink: :duel: We (hubby and I) are having a night in a very nice hotel as well..... :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:01 pm

Kapel wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Since I have only been on here for four months I cannot be expected to read everything you have written over the last two years. I only reacted to comments you made. Don't worry though, as far as I am concerned this is over. :cry:
It seems like only yesterday :shock:
2 years :shock: :shock:

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Yo Bro, 2 years....... :wink: :cheers:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:05 pm

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jacfan wrote:Drinks are on me at the moment as it is my birthday on Sunday........Yay!!!
Hey Happpy Birthday in advance Jacfan...keep a tab on ur tab :wink:
I will tabulate the tab Jacfan, no probs :lol:
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