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Post by gkaytaz » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:31 pm

jacfan wrote:Gkay I believe is from the northern hemisphere Tasmania. :wink:
:lol: That's a close enough description :lol:

I am and will always be an honorary Tasmanian :wink:

I move around a lot though. Never crossed the Equator yet but who knows, one day I may end up in Tasmania too. Just a few months ago a friend of mine moved to Australia... I might well be the next.
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Post by gkaytaz » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:33 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
jacfan wrote:Gkay I believe is from the northern hemisphere Tasmania. :wink:
:shock: What do They look like ?
:shock2: :shock2:
Like a koala having a bad hair day :)
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Post by RE30B#16 » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:52 pm

jacfan wrote:
Jim Watt wrote::oops:
Sorry JacFan; once again I assumed a gender on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I will try to remember in the future.

And, yes, I was congratulating you on your loyalty to Jacques because he is, like Michael, a divisive figure in F1. Unlike Michael, however, the reasons for his unpopularity have more to do with what he says than with what he does on the track. Which is, I have to say, drive beautifully. Not that Michael, too, doesn't drive beautifully. It's just that he does other things as well.
:twisted:

Just got the new (June) F1 magazine. Funny how reluctant Bishop is to endorse Lewis (when they went to press we were only four races in). His essay explaining how soon Fernando would take charge shows that even people with great sources and a deep appreciation of F1's history can be swayed by their emotional attachment to a driver.
:wink:

As to Julian's news about Ferarri's wind tunnel mishap and Gho Gho and GayTaz's additions. I concur about the absence of Ross B. And, of course McLaren's reliability is a HUGE factor. Had they managed to be reliable last year... well, let's just say they would have given Flavio and Fernando a run for it!

I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)

What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.

Anyway, it looks like Ralphie will very shortly be even less marketable an option than J.Villneuve. Rumors are flying, even if he isn't!

Cheers!
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No problem Jim. :D :D As for Ralf, well I think it would be very hard to explain what the hell goes on with him. He is an enigma that is for sure.
I guess big bro would be rubbing it in how many WDC he has every chance he gets. Not exactly great for the ego.
I have a possible explaination: Team Williams!

Ralf was good when he arrived. Very aggressive albeit not as good as Michael, but decent. His best years were at Jordan. He has been crap ever since that year at Williams. I dare say Jenson Button has been cursed by that year at Williams as well. Juan Montoya has had some success since leaving Team Williams, but I sense a trend here. Hopefully, Alex Wurz and Nico Rosberg can survive that team, but look what they did to Heinz-Harold Frentzen, Alex Zanardi, Damon Hill, Mark Webber, and Jacques Villeneuve. Each one of these talented drivers had to "rebuild" their career after Williams. Only Nick Heidfeld had the good sense to bail before the end of a whole season. Look how well he is doing now!

This is why I believe both Wurz and Rosberg will be gone after the end of this season.

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Post by jacfan » Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:57 pm

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jacfan wrote:
Jim Watt wrote::oops:
Sorry JacFan; once again I assumed a gender on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. I will try to remember in the future.

And, yes, I was congratulating you on your loyalty to Jacques because he is, like Michael, a divisive figure in F1. Unlike Michael, however, the reasons for his unpopularity have more to do with what he says than with what he does on the track. Which is, I have to say, drive beautifully. Not that Michael, too, doesn't drive beautifully. It's just that he does other things as well.
:twisted:

Just got the new (June) F1 magazine. Funny how reluctant Bishop is to endorse Lewis (when they went to press we were only four races in). His essay explaining how soon Fernando would take charge shows that even people with great sources and a deep appreciation of F1's history can be swayed by their emotional attachment to a driver.
:wink:

As to Julian's news about Ferarri's wind tunnel mishap and Gho Gho and GayTaz's additions. I concur about the absence of Ross B. And, of course McLaren's reliability is a HUGE factor. Had they managed to be reliable last year... well, let's just say they would have given Flavio and Fernando a run for it!

I guess I was expecting something from Jay Vee. Am I wrong, or does not Jay Vee tend to be full of statistical information, like whether or not it was raining three days before each of Raplph's victories, things like that? I guess I was expecting a detailed explanation of how or under what circumstances on can expect Ralph to turn in one of his good driving days. It's for sure it has to be something relatively hit or miss. (Indy was a 'hit' AND 'miss' day!)

What baffles me is that he CAN drive well as well as terribly, unlike, for example, dear Jense who, once again, drove beautifully at Indy ---in a machine that, charitably speaking, is an embarrassment to F1 and to Honda's racing heritage. In fact they ought to replace the map of the world on their cars with a flaming LEMON scheme.

Anyway, it looks like Ralphie will very shortly be even less marketable an option than J.Villneuve. Rumors are flying, even if he isn't!

Cheers!
:cheers:

Jim Watt
No problem Jim. :D :D As for Ralf, well I think it would be very hard to explain what the hell goes on with him. He is an enigma that is for sure.
I guess big bro would be rubbing it in how many WDC he has every chance he gets. Not exactly great for the ego.
I have a possible explaination: Team Williams!

Ralf was good when he arrived. Very aggressive albeit not as good as Michael, but decent. His best years were at Jordan. He has been crap ever since that year at Williams. I dare say Jenson Button has been cursed by that year at Williams as well. Juan Montoya has had some success since leaving Team Williams, but I sense a trend here. Hopefully, Alex Wurz and Nico Rosberg can survive that team, but look what they did to Heinz-Harold Frentzen, Alex Zanardi, Damon Hill, Mark Webber, and Jacques Villeneuve. Each one of these talented drivers had to "rebuild" their career after Williams. Only Nick Heidfeld had the good sense to bail before the end of a whole season. Look how well he is doing now!

This is why I believe both Wurz and Rosberg will be gone after the end of this season.

:x
:good: Yes many victims of the Williams team. They suck the life out of a driver and then discard the remains. :wink:
Seriously though there is a bit of a trend. I know a lot of you think Jacques was a lousy driver but if you look at his first two years in F1 I believe he was even better than Lewis Hamilton at the same point in their careers. Having stated that I guess I better get the flack jacket on and hide in a bunker somewhere for the next three weeks or months or possibly years. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by gkaytaz » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:05 pm

True, Williams hurt the careers of a few drivers lately. But that has been the trend since 1996 I think. Before that things were okay :)
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Post by jacfan » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:09 pm

gkaytaz wrote:True, Williams hurt the careers of a few drivers lately. But that has been the trend since 1996 I think. Before that things were okay :)
1996 the year JV joined.
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Post by gkaytaz » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:16 pm

jacfan wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:True, Williams hurt the careers of a few drivers lately. But that has been the trend since 1996 I think. Before that things were okay :)
1996 the year JV joined.
In his case the 1998 Williams had a terrible engine. Not the chassis. Lately the engines they use were good but the aero components sucked badly.
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Post by gkaytaz » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:17 pm

I consider JV's switch to BAR be his downfall.
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Post by Julian Mayo » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:16 pm

gkaytaz wrote:I consider JV's switch to BAR be his downfall.
His manager was very good with the careers of downhill skiers...or so they say :roll:

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Post by Julian Mayo » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:19 pm

The fact that Ralf was allowed to put his not so small bum back in a Toyota after Indy suggests , and very strongly, that there is a lot more that needs to be fixed at Toyota than just Ralf. :shock:

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Post by gkaytaz » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:12 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:The fact that Ralf was allowed to put his not so small bum back in a Toyota after Indy suggests , and very strongly, that there is a lot more that needs to be fixed at Toyota than just Ralf. :shock:
Agree with that. However having his big bro drive that Toyota would have magically fixed few of the problems sooner :)
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Post by gkaytaz » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:13 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:I consider JV's switch to BAR be his downfall.
His manager was very good with the careers of downhill skiers...or so they say :roll:
I just hope that he does not use the same guy to sell his album. To date it is said to have sold about 230 copies, excluding Internet sales. Not exactly a platinum deal I say.
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Post by RE30B#16 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:07 pm

gkaytaz wrote:I consider JV's switch to BAR be his downfall.
Agreed!! Or should i say "a greed."

I think JV was a victim of the greedy and ambitious (and ultimately clueless) Craig Pollack.

JV moving to BAR resembled Emerson Fittipaldi moving from McLaren to Copersucar Fittipaldi run by his brother Wilson at the height of his career. Emmo could've been a four or five time WC by the end of the Seventies without that disasterous career move. Perhaps Niki Lauda and definitely James Hunt owe him for their WC titles.

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Post by RE30B#16 » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:14 pm

jacfan wrote:I know a lot of you think Jacques was a lousy driver but if you look at his first two years in F1 I believe he was even better than Lewis Hamilton at the same point in their careers.
Au contrare!!

I don't think anyone who is lucid and truly pays attention to the sport thinks Jacques Villeneuve is a lousy driver. He just became an enigma like Jenson Button or Kimi Raikkonen of late-- very talented, but unfocused.

Juan Montoya would be a fairer comparison with JV than Hambone who is truly a rookie at this level. Hamilton more closely resembles Gilles Villeneuve than Jacques.
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Post by jacfan » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:56 pm

gkaytaz wrote:I consider JV's switch to BAR be his downfall.
Absolutely 100% true and correct. However despite this being the beginning of the end of his career I admired his loyalty to his friend and manager, Craig Pollock. He could very easily left Craig and gone to McLaren at one stage and possibly even Ferrari but he didn't and the rest, as they say, is history.
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