2010 F1 regulations - budget cap - Teams threaten to quit

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:05 pm

If this actually happens, maybe we'll have Formula 1 but called something different. Why not ? Let Max and Bernie go twiddle their thumbs

Ed · Post by Ed » Thu May 14, 2009 6:44 pm

A meeting between Max Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone and FOTA is now scheduled to take place on Friday (15th of May). The signs so far is that neither side is willing to back away from their positions but given that Bernie Ecclestone will be present, it is hoped that he can play as positive role in diffusing this crisis.

Related:
Mosley, Bernie, to meet FOTA on Friday
FIA stands firm amid F1 quit threats

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:12 am

JayVee wrote:If this actually happens, maybe we'll have Formula 1 but called something different. Why not ? Let Max and Bernie go twiddle their thumbs

And the first race to go will be the Australian GP.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat May 16, 2009 7:17 am

Ed wrote:A meeting between Max Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone and FOTA is now scheduled to take place on Friday (15th of May). The signs so far is that neither side is willing to back away from their positions but given that Bernie Ecclestone will be present, it is hoped that he can play as positive role in diffusing this crisis.

Related:
Mosley, Bernie, to meet FOTA on Friday
FIA stands firm amid F1 quit threats

They met.
Ferrari is off to court.
Max is in the pooh.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:12 am

............."I hope Max and his men mend their ways and start over in harmony..............."
Briatore.

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat May 16, 2009 10:49 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
Ed wrote:A meeting between Max Mosley, Bernie Ecclestone and FOTA is now scheduled to take place on Friday (15th of May). The signs so far is that neither side is willing to back away from their positions but given that Bernie Ecclestone will be present, it is hoped that he can play as positive role in diffusing this crisis.

Related:
Mosley, Bernie, to meet FOTA on Friday
FIA stands firm amid F1 quit threats
They met.
Ferrari is off to court.
Max is in the pooh.

FOTA, Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone have met and reports indicate that no compromise has been reached however on a positive note, it appears that there is agreement on a single tier formula however the disagreement on the budget cap still stands.

Ferrari have indeed applied for an injunction in the French courts to stop the FIA from enforcing the 2010 rules as they have an agreement with Bernie Ecclestone that guarantee the stability of the rules.

FOTA are expected to issue a statement where they are expected to offer an alternative to the proposed budget cap.

The situation remains critical althought their appears to be some positive signs

Related:
F1 crisis meeting kicks off in London
Ferrari ramp up F1 row after crunch meeting
Legal action complicates F1 row solution - Mosley

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Sat May 16, 2009 12:39 pm

Seems any rule changes need to ratified by the FIA council or summat, and that august body of men haven't been woken from their daydreams of heroism on the Somme for a few years

Ed · Post by Ed » Mon May 18, 2009 12:27 am

FOTA will meet on Tuesday to find an alternative solution to the FIA's 'budget cap' proposal with the aim of presenting it to the FIA.

Here are the latest articles on the crisis

Mosley repeats - F1 can live without Ferrari
Scheckter has considered handing back F1 title
Mosley shames Howett after failed walkout
F1 crisis action to resume on Tuesday

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:08 am

So the two tier proposal is in the bin, Max has egg all over his face, AGAIN, and he has to sit back and wait til the teams tell him what budget cap they will have. Mean time the European courts will announce in due course that the FIA is merely a "Policing Authority" with no power or right to introduce or alter regulations.
Hmmm, perhaps someone whispered in Max's ear that the F1 teams could easily take over the ailing A1gp series with world wide, cheap (take note, Bernie) TV coverage in place, and circuits waiting with open arms

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:28 am

Julian Mayo wrote:So the two tier proposal is in the bin, Max has egg all over his face, AGAIN, and he has to sit back and wait til the teams tell him what budget cap they will have. Mean time the European courts will announce in due course that the FIA is merely a "Policing Authority" with no power or right to introduce or alter regulations.
Hmmm, perhaps someone whispered in Max's ear that the F1 teams could easily take over the ailing A1gp series with world wide, cheap (take note, Bernie) TV coverage in place, and circuits waiting with open arms

Now would be an almost perfect time for, say, the Indycars to return to Europe and run a couple of races(say, Silverstone, EuroSpeedway, Jerez or Valencia.......)............

Meanwhile, Formula 1 continues its' slow death-spiral thanks to the shenanigans' of Sado-Max, the Dwarf, the Scuderia, McLaren, etc., etc.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Mon May 18, 2009 2:43 pm

How long do we have to keep up with this rubbish ? When can we have Formula 1 minus the politics ? Everytime a problem is solved, Max comes up with a new one. I think we've had enough

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon May 18, 2009 4:53 pm

JayVee wrote:How long do we have to keep up with this rubbish ? When can we have Formula 1 minus the politics ? Everytime a problem is solved, Max comes up with a new one. I think we've had enough

Max no doubt still has one or two toes left despite repeatedly shooting himself in the foot...............

It won't stop til the fool and his ego are put out to pasture.......

mlittle · Post by **mlittle** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:28 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
JayVee wrote:How long do we have to keep up with this rubbish ? When can we have Formula 1 minus the politics ? Everytime a problem is solved, Max comes up with a new one. I think we've had enough
Max no doubt still has one or two toes left despite repeatedly shooting himself in the foot...............
It won't stop til the fool and his ego are put out to pasture.......

We could always put Tony George in charge of Formula 1......wait; he'd actually have to work........

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:01 pm

mlittle wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
JayVee wrote:How long do we have to keep up with this rubbish ? When can we have Formula 1 minus the politics ? Everytime a problem is solved, Max comes up with a new one. I think we've had enough
Max no doubt still has one or two toes left despite repeatedly shooting himself in the foot...............
It won't stop til the fool and his ego are put out to pasture.......
We could always put Tony George in charge of Formula 1......wait; he'd actually have to work........

Why?................Max only works up a sweat in the dungeon...........

jido · Post by **jido** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:13 pm

Mosley said: "I think we're all agreed now that it's desirable that all the teams race under the same regulations. I think there's no difficulty about that."

Woo-hoo!! Maybe some common sense coming back in F1?