The 2006 German Formula 1 Grand Prix

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:14 pm

<T-K> wrote:Lets hope Renault are back on it in Hungary

A very good impersonation of Renault's damper T-K

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:36 pm

Snowy wrote:Ron Dennis mentioned that his suspension system achieves just about everything Renault's mass damper does. Does that mean it is illegal? (as well as tyres and brakes which are also moving parts that effect the aerodynamic balance of the car) Oh and brake balance control that affects the areodynamic balance of the car under braking. Oh and the whole car moves and effects the areodynamics, so actually under that rule the whole car is illegal! isn't it

I wouldn't blame Charley we all know who's behind this foul smellling pile of manure. Max Satan-Mosley.

Actually, if the car has a tail wind......is it ?

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:39 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:Actually, if the car has a tail wind......is it ?

Now that would appeal to Max!

He might declare the weather illegal and have the Earth's rotation ceased with immediate effect.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:45 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Actually, if the car has a tail wind......is it ?
Now that would appeal to Max! He might declare the weather illegal and have the Earth's rotation ceased with immediate effect.

Will that mean we pour up ????

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:49 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:Will that mean we pour up ????

The consequences 'll be a bit more dire than that but this is the future of F1! we're talkin' 'bout

No greater sacrifice an' all that!

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:50 pm

coronado wrote:It will be almost imposible...

Copied from Planet-F1.com:

The Suspicious Stink of F1
Opinion: It's difficult to concentrate on Winners and Losers when there's such a strong smell of suspicion coming from the FIA's technical delegate.

It's a bit like sitting down to watch a film you've been looking forward to and finding that a piggery has moved next door. Charlie Whiting's move to ban the Renault damping system so pivotal to their set-up makes me mega suspicious - and trying to focus on the German GP has been hard given such a rank smell.

The fact is that Renault will have shown their damping system to him before they put it on the car; it has reportedly been on the car since Brazil 2005, and only now - with the F1 Championship delicately poised - does he decide to ban it. It raises huge questions over either his competency or raises the possibility of connivance within the FIA.

If the system was illegal then it should have been banned straight away. If it was illegal and he failed to spot it for nine months then clearly he is not up to the job.

Whiting's ban was undermined by the fact that the FIA's own race stewards could see nothing wrong with the Renault system.

The timing is very suspicious, coming so soon after the French GP when Fernando Alonso snatched an unlikely second place. Perhaps something needed to be done to put a bigger gap between Schumacher and Alonso if Schumi is to win the 2006 Championship.

Exactly the same thing happened in 2003 when after the Hungarian GP it looked like the 2003 season was getting away from the Scuderia. All of a sudden Max Mosley was announcing that there was a problem with the shoulder of the Michelin tyre and the tyre rules were tightened up to benefit Bridgestone. Embarrassingly for the FIA, Mosley said they hadn't been influenced by anybody and then subsequently Ross Brawn admitted that they had told the FIA about it and that Max had flown down to Maranello the next day.
That stank too.

Maybe it is just coincidental that it came now and we are being overly critical. Only complete transparency will rid us of our doubts. What the FIA need to do now is print a full report. We need to know:
a) Why did Whiting ban the system now?
b) Was he prompted by another team - and if so, who?

I concur 100%

Apparently the FIA have allowed Renault to reintroduce the mass Damper system from Hungary onwards

<T-K> · Post by **<T-K>** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:52 pm

Snowy wrote:
<T-K> wrote:Lets hope Renault are back on it in Hungary
A very good impersonation of Renault's damper T-K

This one may be better....the two green things counteract each other

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:57 pm

<T-K> wrote: Apparently the FIA have allowed Renault to reintroduce the mass Damper system from Hungary onwards

Will they be able to run it without getting a retroactive penalty if the appeal is thrown out of court?

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:59 pm

Snowy wrote:
<T-K> wrote: Apparently the FIA have allowed Renault to reintroduce the mass Damper system from Hungary onwards
Will they be able to run it without getting a retroactive penalty if the appeal is thrown out of court?

What if the bottom ( or top) damper has little dampers?

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:00 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Will that mean we pour up ????
The consequences 'll be a bit more dire than that but this is the future of F1! we're talkin' 'bout No greater sacrifice an' all that!

You mean.........

.....We won't be able to pour

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:02 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
What if the bottom ( or top) damper has little dampers?

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:04 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
What if the bottom ( or top) damper has little dampers?

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:09 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
What if the bottom ( or top) damper has little dampers?

genius.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:16 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
Snowy wrote:

genius.

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:18 pm

JayVee wrote: Now of course you'll start to see those Ferrari fans comeout from where they were hiding. Typical isn't it

Disappointment tagged alongwith with Jealousy come out of this statement.
JayVee,i'm a Ferrari fan which every regular on this forum knows & never went into hiding even when UR CUTE was dominating.

Infact appreciated Renaults & Alonso's performance,plus Y wouldnt a Ferrari have a ball when they r back with a bang in the second half of the season.

First half to Renault & Alonso..now its our turn!!!

On the race now:-

Ferarri Flawless,Michael & Massa Flawless..they didnt need to push at all.N one could see Massa was itching to go ahead of Michael

indicating him to push harder,drive faster

no need to push the car kid

By my driver of the day was Kimi.Superb pace,with bad luck in pits,poor tyres & good recovery & overtaking move on Button

Did see a HONDA BBQ,but for poor Rubinho

Button drover an excellent race,could be a recovery.

My heart went out for Webber...leave the damn team & move to ...hmmm

..anywhere!

Toyota surely are improving with Truli but Ralfie is surely going down...with all the things he did in the race

without those bumping,speeding in pits he would have surely finished ahead of the Reanults...

Alonso was lucky to lose on 5 points & not 10 to Michael..Webber's retirement gave him an additional point & Fisi protected himself & him beautifully from Truli when Alonso went for a stroll in the park..

Anti-Ferrari ppl should stop crying fowl on the mass dampers,8 team were asked to remove them including Ferrari & Mr.Alonso himself admitted that he didnt feel any difference ,i think they just made a wrong choice in scrubbing their tyres to avoid graining but instead got blisters

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