Renault to supply Red Bull GmbH with F1 engines in 07/08

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:41 pm

Ed wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: It seems there is a certaind determination to keep both F1 trophies in Europe for many a long year. At least til we are all driving Hyundais
Honda as an engine supplier won the title 9 times. As a team they have struggled but they started to look much improved later this season. In 2007 we'll see if their drivers can actually make the next step.

Toyota have struggled with poor management as well as poor driver selection. Ralf and Jarno may be good drivers but they aren't the drivers you need to win titles.

Those two have to be more determined otherwise we will have to wait for Hyundai

J

Japanese roads are so good that they cant build F1 chassis/shock combos, the honda chassis back then was lethal

Which is why they became suppliers

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:43 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
No one listens to me! Prodrive will enter as Aston Martin in 2008 using the current Cosworth mill
Doesn't that kind of unsubstantiated rumour belong on your thread?

Ed will fix it

.......Ed.....copy n paste please

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:45 pm

gkaytaz wrote:
Ed wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: It seems there is a certaind determination to keep both F1 trophies in Europe for many a long year. At least til we are all driving Hyundais
Honda as an engine supplier won the title 9 times. As a team they have struggled but they started to look much improved later this season. In 2007 we'll see if their drivers can actually make the next step.

Toyota have struggled with poor management as well as poor driver selection. Ralf and Jarno may be good drivers but they aren't the drivers you need to win titles.

Those two have to be more determined otherwise we will have to wait for Hyundai
Besides there will be 4 teams running Japanese engines: Honda, Aguri, Toyota and Williams... Judging from the car+driver performance I'd have to agree with Ed that the title will remain in Europe for a few more years. If (and a BIG if at that) a Japanese powered team wins the title that would most possibly be Honda.

Aguri

I so enjoy the sight of multiple Seppuku

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:00 pm

Julian Mayo wrote: Aguri I so enjoy the sight of multiple Seppuku

So far Honda delivered flawlessly in that category

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:13 pm

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: Aguri I so enjoy the sight of multiple Seppuku
So far Honda delivered flawlessly in that category

When they are not producing Divine Wind Drivers

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:17 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote: Aguri I so enjoy the sight of multiple Seppuku
So far Honda delivered flawlessly in that category
When they are not producing Divine Wind Drivers

Talking of which Ruben's has complained that they have too much PR at Honda and that he has urged them to mend their ways or forfeit another stab at the championship.

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:19 pm

Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
So far Honda delivered flawlessly in that category
When they are not producing Divine Wind Drivers
Talking of which Ruben's has complained that they have too much PR at Honda and that he has urged them to mend their ways or forfeit another stab at the championship.

So they do have a stab at the championship

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:20 pm

gkaytaz wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
When they are not producing Divine Wind Drivers
Talking of which Ruben's has complained that they have too much PR at Honda and that he has urged them to mend their ways or forfeit another stab at the championship.
So they do have a stab at the championship

After

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:21 pm

gkaytaz wrote:
So they do have a stab at the championship

Oh yee of little faith.

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:24 pm

Snowy wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
So they do have a stab at the championship
Oh yee of little faith.

Yes and of that little faith there is none for Honda

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:26 pm

1 rouble says honda finishes 5th

Snowy · Post by **Snowy** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:29 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:1 rouble says honda finishes 5th

I see your rouble and raise you 2 rupees

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:19 am

I can't see Honda finishing better than 4th but can't see them doing much worse either.

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:59 pm

JayVee wrote:I can't see Honda finishing better than 4th but can't see them doing much worse either.

Honda has the worst reliability record of all engines. But they have good (if not great) drivers. With the engine freeze they will have a chance to get 3rd or 4th place (depending on McLaren)