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JayVee wrote:

jacfan wrote:

JayVee wrote:
Newey is one of the best out there but sometimes he goes overboard. I recall the McLaren that never raced or did it race once.

But I hope that this one is a good car that gives Webber a real chance to shine!

I for one would love to see Webber get his chance to show us all what he can do. Beep beep... move over Alonso...

I love to see close battles and if that is between Alonso and Webber then all the better. As long as we have fair racing on track and fair team tactics then I will enjoy it.

But it is serious crystal ball gazing. First Webber has to be outstanding in the RBR so he jumps into the Renault then he has to be outstanding there to be close to Alonso (Assuming of course that Alonso remains outstanding but that is a given to me )

Unless Newey has lost his marbles and produces a complete dog,I seriously doubt we will see Webbo in a Renault ( ) The RB team is on the way up, with solid financing, and a good crew. I doubt you will get him out of the RB with a crowbar

JayVee wrote:On the car, doesn't it look like a McLaren copy ? The nose, the sidepods ? Huh Huh ? But the mirrors are Ferrari's cheeky Newey

A Renault powered McLaren clone mirrored by Ferrari Interesting

Side by side photos Ed please ?

Sorry but we couldn't find similar shots of both cars with their features highlighted. The closest is this:

On the subject of how strong can the Red Bull car be, I would say a top 5 finish would be the best they could hope for in 2007 and it will be very very difficult for them to move up further in the following years.

They have a good team for sure but they are not in the same league as the top 3 and then there is Honda, BMW and Toyota. If they can mix regularly with those then they would have done a fantastic job.

On the subject of Webber, if his aim is to win races and fight for the World Championship (which is what any good driver would aim for), then he sees Red Bull as a jumping board to kick start his career and move quickly to a top team to acheive those aims.

A move to Renault must be his target. I can't see him staying at Red Bull for too long.

Here's RBR and MP4-21, side by side:

Ed wrote:On the subject of how strong can the Red Bull car be, I would say a top 5 finish would be the best they could hope for in 2007 and it will be very very difficult for them to move up further in the following years.

They have a good team for sure but they are not in the same league as the top 3 and then there is Honda, BMW and Toyota. If they can mix regularly with those then they would have done a fantastic job.

On the subject of Webber, if his aim is to win races and fight for the World Championship (which is what any good driver would aim for), then he sees Red Bull as a jumping board to kick start his career and move quickly to a top team to acheive those aims.

A move to Renault must be his target. I can't see him staying at Red Bull for too long.

Guess the faith in Newey went a tad too far I agree with you, hence my prediction of a 6th place finish for RBR. Then again it'd be excellent to see them compete with the top three. The more the merrier...

In the world of F!, dominated by human error, as it is, 2 accidents off the grid, removing both of the team cars from the results, eg Nico on Webber twice last year(not a top team, but I am sure you understand what I am saying),
and RB or Honda, or BMW could challenge for the 3 spot........imho.
Possibilities.....Massa n Kimi
Fisi n Kovi
Alonso n HH(unpronouncable)
Young Guns are scary

Ed wrote:On the subject of how strong can the Red Bull car be, I would say a top 5 finish would be the best they could hope for in 2007 and it will be very very difficult for them to move up further in the following years.

They have a good team for sure but they are not in the same league as the top 3 and then there is Honda, BMW and Toyota. If they can mix regularly with those then they would have done a fantastic job.

On the subject of Webber, if his aim is to win races and fight for the World Championship (which is what any good driver would aim for), then he sees Red Bull as a jumping board to kick start his career and move quickly to a top team to acheive those aims.

A move to Renault must be his target. I can't see him staying at Red Bull for too long.

Ahah, stimulated by the discussion, enough to join in, huh?

Julian Mayo wrote:In the world of F!, dominated by human error, as it is, 2 accidents off the grid, removing both of the team cars from the results, eg Nico on Webber twice last year(not a top team, but I am sure you understand what I am saying),
and RB or Honda, or BMW could challenge for the 3 spot........imho.
Possibilities.....Massa n Kimi
Fisi n Kovi
Alonso n HH(unpronouncable)
Young Guns are scary

Sato's still on that grid. As is Rosberg

Julian Mayo wrote:

Ed wrote:On the subject of how strong can the Red Bull car be, I would say a top 5 finish would be the best they could hope for in 2007 and it will be very very difficult for them to move up further in the following years.

They have a good team for sure but they are not in the same league as the top 3 and then there is Honda, BMW and Toyota. If they can mix regularly with those then they would have done a fantastic job.

On the subject of Webber, if his aim is to win races and fight for the World Championship (which is what any good driver would aim for), then he sees Red Bull as a jumping board to kick start his career and move quickly to a top team to acheive those aims.

A move to Renault must be his target. I can't see him staying at Red Bull for too long.

Ahah, stimulated by the discussion, enough to join in, huh?

You could say putting a realistic spin on things
And preparing for the season preview

Ed wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote:

Ed wrote:On the subject of how strong can the Red Bull car be, I would say a top 5 finish would be the best they could hope for in 2007 and it will be very very difficult for them to move up further in the following years.

They have a good team for sure but they are not in the same league as the top 3 and then there is Honda, BMW and Toyota. If they can mix regularly with those then they would have done a fantastic job.

On the subject of Webber, if his aim is to win races and fight for the World Championship (which is what any good driver would aim for), then he sees Red Bull as a jumping board to kick start his career and move quickly to a top team to acheive those aims.

A move to Renault must be his target. I can't see him staying at Red Bull for too long.

Ahah, stimulated by the discussion, enough to join in, huh?

You could say putting a realistic spin on things
And preparing for the season preview

Ed, shhh, they will start to realize it's true about Webbo in a Renault n the odds will go down

We will have to get Murray Walker back to call Webbo in the Renault for his first win!! ( I pronounce Renault as Reno)

Ed wrote:

Julian Mayo wrote: Ahah, stimulated by the discussion, enough to join in, huh?

You could say putting a realistic spin on things
And preparing for the season preview

Yeah you should tell us about your predictions... Nothing objective, just what you think.

Julian Mayo wrote:We will have to get Murray Walker back to call Webbo in the Renault for his first win!! ( I pronounce Renault as Reno)

So, we gotta wait for Fisi to get the boot...