The Ferrari investigation (McLaren issues apology)

RE30B#16 · Post by **RE30B#16** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:30 am

jacfan wrote:Sounds feasible to me. And just what is Michael Schue's part in all this. He has been hanging around the garage........ and did you notice that he wouldn't even look at Ralf... very suspicious.

Maybe Michael Schumacher and Ross Brawn are plotting a Toyota take over to get Schumacher back in F1!!!

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:50 pm

RE30B#16 wrote:
jacfan wrote:Sounds feasible to me. And just what is Michael Schue's part in all this. He has been hanging around the garage........ and did you notice that he wouldn't even look at Ralf... very suspicious.
Maybe Michael Schumacher and Ross Brawn are plotting a Toyota take over to get Schumacher back in F1!!!

Nah, Toyota have had enough of one Schumacher already!

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:33 am

Methinks that Nick Fry, and a Techo who has just fled to Honda from BMW may be able to Cough up more information about photocopiers

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:36 pm

Julian Mayo wrote:Methinks that Nick Fry, and a Techo who has just fled to Honda from BMW may be able to Cough up more information about photocopiers

Mmm, I smell more trouble

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:50 am

The FIA is now pursuing McLaren. Seems there may have been more than one 700 plus page document, and over a considerable time span.

Bundy · Post by **Bundy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:57 pm

i smell a loss of points

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:39 pm

Bundy wrote:i smell a loss of points

There was a post, pre-season, about the rumour that Ferrari would win the Titles this year.
No Matter what. And that had nothing to do with Ferrari, but some-one else deciding that "for the good of the sport" it would be better if Ferrari won.

Bundy · Post by **Bundy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:47 pm

The really unfortunate thing is, that if guilty, then a massive fine & loss of points would be appropriate....Just unfortunate that Hamo will lose the WDC.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:51 pm

Bundy wrote:The really unfortunate thing is, that if guilty, then a massive fine & loss of points would be appropriate....Just unfortunate that Hamo will lose the WDC.

Yeah, it does seem un-McLaren like tho, if there is any team involvement

Bruce would be spinning in his grave,if there is

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:01 pm

UH oh, The FIA has charged McLaren with fraudulent possession of Ferrari material !!!!!!

Southernman · Post by **Southernman** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:38 am

If points are to be deducted from McLaren I hope that it is done sooner rather than later. I don't want to get to the end of the year not knowing who has won the drivers or manufactures champs.

I do expect points to be deducted but hope it is only for the manufacturers champs.

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:33 pm

Southernman wrote:If points are to be deducted from McLaren I hope that it is done sooner rather than later. I don't want to get to the end of the year not knowing who has won the drivers or manufactures champs.

I do expect points to be deducted but hope it is only for the manufacturers champs.

That sounds logical but if the cars have gained an advantage, and therefore the driver has won the race, a pt deduction from both Alonso and Hamilton will be inevitable.

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:34 pm

Southernman wrote:If points are to be deducted from McLaren I hope that it is done sooner rather than later.

But I agree, if something must be done, let's do it before, say, the Turkish GP...

gkaytaz · Post by **gkaytaz** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:35 pm

Bundy wrote:The really unfortunate thing is, that if guilty, then a massive fine & loss of points would be appropriate....Just unfortunate that Hamo will lose the WDC.

That'll bring his mood down for sure. I just hope that he won't get hurt too much and lose interest in F1.

Ed · Post by Ed » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:51 pm

The FIA have released a statement where they request representatives from the McLaren team to appear before the FIA World Motor Sport Council on the 26th of July in relation to the team being in possession of documents and confidential information that belonged to the Ferrari team.

The statement read:

Representatives of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Thursday, July 26, 2007.

The team representatives have been called to answer a charge that between March and July 2007, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, Vodafone McLaren Mercedes had unauthorised possession of documents and confidential information belonging to Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, including information that could be used to design, engineer, build, check, test, develop and/or run a 2007 Ferrari Formula One car.