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Can Red Bull Racing score a a podium or more in 2007

Yes, they will score at least 3 podiums and move into the top 5
5
42%
Yes, but one or two at most and improve on their results from 2006
1
8%
No, but they will improve on their results from 2006
5
42%
No, they will not score any podium and will finish 7th or lower
1
8%
 
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:10 am

The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc :?
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:30 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:Imagine by some interference of an extraordinary force (no not Bernie or the FIA) RBR winning the title :lol:

Joke aside I think they will improve quite a bit but not enough to score more than a couple of podiums at best.

DC is a consistent 8th place driver. Occasional higher place finishes perhaps. One thing he does well, I admit, is that whenever he sees an opportunity he grabs it (in terms of F1, can't vouch for his life outside the paddock). And hangs on to it.

Webber is good and faster than DC but not fast enough to get very high up.
I do not concur. 8)
Would have been disappointed if you did :)
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:32 am

Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc :?
Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:34 am

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:Imagine by some interference of an extraordinary force (no not Bernie or the FIA) RBR winning the title :lol:

Joke aside I think they will improve quite a bit but not enough to score more than a couple of podiums at best.

DC is a consistent 8th place driver. Occasional higher place finishes perhaps. One thing he does well, I admit, is that whenever he sees an opportunity he grabs it (in terms of F1, can't vouch for his life outside the paddock). And hangs on to it.

Webber is good and faster than DC but not fast enough to get very high up.
I do not concur. 8)
Would have been disappointed if you did :)
I simply abbhor disappointing people :lol:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:35 am

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc :?
Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure??? :shock:
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:38 am

Lower pressure = fewer leaks,=higher temps.......hence bgger intakes
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:38 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:The camber set up on the RB is typical Newey.....are they the biggest intakes we have seen yet?........hmmm..........run bigger intakes........lower viscosity oil......less density against moving bits........faster compression cycle........hmmm.......but then again it took me 2 hours just to change the sump on Therapy via detachment of various steering thingys etc :?
Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure??? :shock:
Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:39 am

Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer :x
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:40 am

Julian Mayo wrote: I simply abbhor disappointing people :lol:
Good, so I made your day then :) Or night rather :lol:
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:41 am

Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer :x
Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:43 am

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Lower viscosity = more leaks = bigger engine fire tendency
lower viscosity=less pressure??? :shock:
Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes :?
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:44 am

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer :x
Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
Variable for the circuit at hand :lol:
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:48 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
lower viscosity=less pressure??? :shock:
Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes :?
They'll get the seamless shift from Renault. The rest depends on how big RBR wants to gamble :) With Newey in the picture one can never be sure what's to be called a big gamble though :wink:
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Post by gkaytaz » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:50 am

Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:Of course, if the intakes are no bigger.................then I really need sleep........bugga the Spanish Dancer :x
Issue of optimization. Bigger intakes create more drag. Gotta know what kinda trade-off would be acceptable.
Variable for the circuit at hand :lol:
They might use slap-on pieces to create intake sizes necessary to suit changing conditions during the race.
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Post by Julian Mayo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:52 am

gkaytaz wrote:
Julian Mayo wrote:
gkaytaz wrote:
Yes but they tend to leak through faulty rings and gaskets whereas their higher viscosity counterparts stay put. The heat doesn't help you know. Lowers the viscosity even further.
Ahhh, but with the advances in small bore rings n seals,.....is Newey prepared to take the risk to enable a faster compression cycle, given that they are rev limited?? The only way I can see them getting an advantage over one another is thru combustion cycle evolution, n gear boxes :?
They'll get the seamless shift from Renault. The rest depends on how big RBR wants to gamble :) With Newey in the picture one can never be sure what's to be called a big gamble though :wink:[/quote


top 5 in the first year, or a complete dog. I like to think.....he has had a long time to think about things :wink:
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