Designed [?!?] by Herman Tilke!!!

[Jim Watt]

I can't believe it!!! What does Mr. Tilke HAVE on Bernie E.???

I just read that he is supposed to design (and THAT's an Oxymoron, if ever I heard one) the Austin track for the new U.S.G.P.

So. In order to allay any fears or suspense on the part of racing fans, let me predict here the layout of the new circuit.

It'll be about 2.8 miles long. It will feature a moderate straight (.5 mile) in front of the grandstands with the grid, start line & pit exit near the middle. Turn one will be a sharp right hander leading to a double apex, high speed
left hander with a slight incline (& more grandstands) then a descending short straight into two or three chicanes, followed by a sweeping right hander (probably named the 'Andretti curve' by the P.R. hacks) that dumps into a climbing straight about 3/4 of a mile long that ends with a hair pin left hander feeding the final, slightly banked right hander that feeds into the main straight with the pit entry coming just after the completion of that final turn. It will be practically impossible to overtake on the damn thing because, though parts of the circuit will be widened to suggest more than one racing line, Mr. Tilke is constitutionally unable to make a circuit even as interesting as the Daytona International Speedway where, if the F.I.A. had any brains they'd make the U.S.G.P. run in rotation with Indianapolis and Laguna Seca.

Oh well, Austin is a very nice town and why shouldn't the U.S.G.P. be as boring as those other Tilke tracks in the deserts of the middle east?

Jim Watt

[Guest]

Haha, it's not very surprising, is it?

Some of the new tracks are dogs. Bahrain needs axing, and I was tremendously unimpressed with Abu Dhabi.

However, I do like Turkey, which was also designed by Tilke.

I really should sign up to this forum properly, instead of posting as a guest.

Incidentally, I read on Joe Saward's blog that the teams want no more than 20 races a year. So, with the US, India and Russia that'd take us up to 22. I wonder which circuits will end up getting the chop. Ideally, I'd lose Bahrain and Abu Dhabi, but the latter won't go so soon and I doubt the tedious oasis in the desert will go either.

Thaddeus

[Jim Watt]

Thanks, Thaddeus, for your response. According to Wikipedia, Mr. T. is 'responsible' for the following circuits:

1998 Sepang Malaysia
2004 Bahrain, Bahrain
2004 Shanhai, China
2005 Istanbul, Turkey
2006 Cancun, Mexico [unfinished...oh well....]
2006 Bejing (Street Circuit), China
2007 Bucharest Ring, Romania [Romania?!?!]
2008 Marina Bay (Street Circuit concept) Singapore
2008 Swedbank kartodroms, Latvia [Latvia?!?!?]
2008 Valencia (street circuit) Spain
2008 Jakarta (street circuit) Indonesia
2009 Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi
2009 Motorland Aragon, Spain (MotoGP)
2010 Dublin (street circuit) Ireland
2010 Korean International, S. Korea [under construction & on the calendar]
2010 Moscow Raceway, Russia (MotoGP)
2010 Kazakhstan Motor City, Kazakhstan [O.K. Kazakhstan, why not?]
2010 Atlanta Motorsports, U.S.A. [under construction ... for who?]
2011 JayPee Group Circuit, India [under construction ... sure...]
2012 Austin International, U.S.A. [under construction ... starting tomorrow?]

This is not to mention the significant damage done by the Tilker at Hockenheimring, Catalunya, Monza, Nurburgring, Fuji & Silverstone!!!]

So what's left on Mr. E. & Mr. T's master plan to destroy F1 by making it into senior go-karting?] a London street circuit? how about messing up Montreal? or maybe he could work on 'straightening out' & 'tightening up' Spa? Why not let him re-design Monaco? I’m sure he could make even it more boring.

And why, oh why, dear chaps, have the two of you overlooked Rio and Montevideo? What about Pikes Peak? And surely Paris, too, needs a Tilke street circuit? What about Vancouver, B.C.? And how have you been able to overlook Laos and Cambodia? Tasmania and New Zealand?

Oh the whole world cries out for more boring circuits --and races decided by the grid slots. In fact, one could argue that, by going to nothing but Tilke tracks, F1 might be made once and for all truly “green.” Because, once qualifications are over, the trophies and points could simply be handed out, there being no need to waste all that fuel on a procession round and round while the commentators fight off yawns.

Jim Watt

[Julian Mayo]

Haha, it's not very surprising, is it?

Some of the new tracks are dogs. Bahrain needs axing, and I was tremendously unimpressed with Abu Dhabi.

However, I do like Turkey, which was also designed by Tilke.

I really should sign up to this forum properly, instead of posting as a guest.

Incidentally, I read on Joe Saward's blog that the teams want no more than 20 races a year. So, with the US, India and Russia that'd take us up to 22. I wonder which circuits will end up getting the chop. Ideally, I'd lose Bahrain and Abu Dhabi, but the latter won't go so soon and I doubt the tedious oasis in the desert will go either.

Thaddeus

Turky..........turn eight............and yes you should.

[F14Fighter]

"2012 Austin International, U.S.A. [under construction ... starting tomorrow?] "

cant wait for this to be done