The Turkish Grand Prix (Raikkonen wins!)

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:41 pm

This is the place to discuss everything related to the fourtenth round of the 2005 season taking place at Istanbul Park in Turkey between the 19th and 21st of August.

The Turkish Grand Prix Preview is now available here.
The main Turkish Grand Prix Page is available here.

To submit your 8 'n' Pole Picks for Turkey click here, to register in the competition click here (it is never too late to enter as the winner of each round wins a prize in addition to the overall prizes)

Team and Driver quotes:
Friday Practice
Qualifying
Race

FIA Press Conferences:
Thursday with Fernando Alonso, Rubens Barrichello, Robert Doornbos, Christian Klien and Felipe Massa
Friday with Patrick Faure, Christian Horner, Timothy Routsis, Yasuhiro Wada, Frank Williams
Saturday with Kimi Raikkonen, Giancarlo Fisichella and Fernando Alonso
Sunday with Kimi Raikkonen, Fernando Alonso and Juan Pablo Montoya

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:43 pm

The event timetable for the Turkish Grand Prix

Friday
1st Friday Practice 11:00 local time - 08:00 GMT
2nd Friday Practice 14:00 local time - 11:00 GMT

Saturday
1st Saturday Practice 09:00 local time - 06:00 GMT
2nd Saturday Practice 10:15 local time - 07:15 GMT
Qualifying 13:00 local time - 10:00 GMT

Sunday
Race 15:00 local time - 12:00 GMT

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:49 pm

The latest weather forecast for the Turkish Grand Prix (last updated 20 August)

Friday
1st Practice - 11:00 - 27 - Scattered Thunderstorms
2nd Practice - 14:00 - 28 - Sunny

Saturday
1st Practice - 09:00 - 26 - Isolated Thunderstorms
2nd Practice - 10:15 - 27 - Isolated Thunderstorms
Qualifying - 13:00 - 27 - Scattered Thunderstorms

Sunday
Race - 15:00 - 27 - Scattered Thunderstorms

F1greyhound · Post by **F1greyhound** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:24 pm

I agree with most statements in the preview, with 2 exceptions:

1. MCLAREN, the relative reliability would be rather 8.0 than 7.0, probably they ran through a string of bad luck in the last races and statisticilly the trend will be "normalized" in Turkey with both cars finishing baring accidents.
Their speed on the other side should be rated 10.0, they are definitely faster than RENAULT and for most of the season speedwise they simply set the benchmark.

2. RUBENS, well maybe he will feel totally free of MICHAELs and FERRARIs burden now and also he certainly doesnt want to leave the impression at BAR they hired the wrong man. So I would expect fairly decent results from him even if he wont beat MICHAEL because he is most times not able to do so.

Finally I would hope that the BRIDGESTONES work ok to have an even more exciting end of the season.

Ed · Post by Ed » Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:45 pm

Your points are valid too F1greyhound however when assessing the reliability factor, we see them becoming less and less reliable this season. In the first 6 races they had just 1 retirement yet in the last 4 races they had 3 retirements plus two engine changes. 8 in our opinion is a bit on the high side.

As for the speed rating, they are certainly faster than Renault but the difference isn't much and dependent on the circuit. Neither team has dominated to such a degree deserving of 10 again in our opinion.

Regarding Rubens, yes he may feel motivated by that however in the last 2 races he wasn't competitive. Michael is good at executing a risky strategy and at this stage that is the only way we think Ferrari can score good points.

Thanks for your feedback.

sgd · Post by **sgd** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:14 am

F1greyhound wrote: RUBENS, well maybe he will feel totally free of MICHAELs and FERRARIs burden now and also he certainly doesnt want to leave the impression at BAR they hired the wrong man. So I would expect fairly decent results from him even if he wont beat MICHAEL because he is most times not able to do so.

I agree here about Rubens!

I'd only said it in this way:

sgd wrote: RUBENS, well maybe he will feel totally free of MICHAELs and FERRARIs burden now and also he certainly doesnt want to leave the impression at BAR they hired the wrong man. So I would expect fairly decent results from him even if he wont beat MICHAEL because he is most times not allowed to do so.

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:27 am

There are going to be some very hot, tired, 2nd race, engines out there.

Graham Ross · Post by **Graham Ross** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:53 am

Barrichello will start getting isolated at Ferrari as he is leaving the team to a rival team. His car will be even more inferior to Michael's and that will not help him

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:13 pm

Graham Ross wrote:Barrichello will start getting isolated at Ferrari as he is leaving the team to a rival team. His car will be even more inferior to Michael's and that will not help him

True, and shuey will have to do it all by himself.

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:50 pm

julian mayo wrote:
Graham Ross wrote:Barrichello will start getting isolated at Ferrari as he is leaving the team to a rival team. His car will be even more inferior to Michael's and that will not help him
True, and shuey will have to do it all by himself.

U mean, actually winning the race

this season

,on his own with the bridgestone melting

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:53 pm

No, I mean have to actually worry about his own rear for the first time in yonks.

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:25 pm

julian mayo wrote:No, I mean have to actually worry about his own rear for the first time in yonks.

What is Massa's job then???

Julian Mayo · Post by **Julian Mayo** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:32 pm

Kapel wrote:
julian mayo wrote:No, I mean have to actually worry about his own rear for the first time in yonks.
What is Massa's job then???

Massa will be out to cut schuey to bits in the second half of the race

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:14 pm

This is a new track and those with the ability to learn tracks quickly will do well so watch out for The Cute

Kapel · Post by **Kapel** » Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:18 pm

I'm sure there are a few more drivers who learn the new track quickly,N Narain is not one of them(i'm not sure though)

so watch out for his spinning drive in Istanbul